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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Sat May 10, 2008 12:21 pm

You know, I was wondering, you know how you need to be gentle when you are handling a HDD that is on so you do not scratch the disks when it is writing, well how do laptops HDD work? Are they more reinforced?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat May 10, 2008 2:20 pm

Think they're more resistant since they're smaller (head is lighter so less G force) but I'm sure if you took a laptop thats on and droped it about a foot on the table it would probably reboot or freeze and possibly damage HDD.

Thats an experiment for.......

The mythbusters!

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:00 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: but I'm sure if you took a laptop thats on and droped it about a foot on the table it would probably reboot or freeze and possibly damage HDD.

Many notebooks – ThinkPads and MacBooks, for example – have a sensor that can detect when the computer’s in free fall and then automatically stop the hard drive.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:54 pm

Hmm thats pretty cool. So it will basically park the head before it hits.

In theory you could throw a hard drive against a brick wall and it should still work, they're quite solid when turned off. I would not try it though.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:35 pm

lol, wow laptops have some neat hidden features.

I am thinking about buying a cheap used one on ebay.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:02 pm

Lamez wrote: lol, wow laptops have some neat hidden features.

ThinkPads have another neat feature (that I’ve yet to test): a spill-resistant keyboard. I can’t imagine a scenario where my next notebook won’t be another ThinkPad.

Edit: Hyphenated “spill-resistant.”

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:52 pm

lets try this test....

put laptop in dishwasher while it is on, configure wireless and do a ping -t to the IP from another PC, see how long it lasts

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Sun May 11, 2008 12:54 am

lol ya, I would watch that one for sure.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:29 am

I think the experiment would be more interesting if we stuck a Canadian in the dishwasher instead.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:05 am

Chris Vogel wrote: I think the experiment would be more interesting if we stuck a Canadian in the dishwasher instead.

Ya, but how would we ping him?

I guess we could stick a wifi receiver in his butt, then plug him in, and install win98se.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:08 am

We shouldn’t be so mean to Red. We’d at least use Windows 2000.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:24 pm

lmao, I am going to install that onto an old computer I found.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:33 pm

Windows 2000 is by far the best OS microsoft has ever rolled out. XP is not too bad either its what I'm using now.

Vista is just retarded and defeats the purpose of getting a high end computer. If I'm going to spend 2 grand to build a high end quad core machine, why would I put vista on it and make it no faster then a single core machine with XP?

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:30 pm

I hate vista, I love windows 32-bit, there is not a lot of good programs that run off just 64-bit for xp.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:31 pm

oh ya 150th post for meh!

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Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:54 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Windows 2000 is by far the best OS microsoft has ever rolled out. XP is not too bad either its what I'm using now.

Vista is just retarded and defeats the purpose of getting a high end computer. If I'm going to spend 2 grand to build a high end quad core machine, why would I put vista on it and make it no faster then a single core machine with XP?

Could you make Vista a word that gets censored? It would make sense to do it.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:38 pm

Reaper wrote: Could you make Vista a word that gets censored? It would make sense to do it.

I move that we replace “Vista” with “Stasi.”

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:44 pm

I second that motion

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Ast...F-8&sa=N&tab=iw

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:32 am

I think I’ve got the hang of rsync, and I’m almost ready to automate the process.

Plan:<ol type='1'><li>Make a folder for each day on my external hard drive, e.g. 20070513 .</li><li>Make backups hourly in that folder. Files that have changed multiple times through the day will be suffixed with the hour (in 24-hour format), e.g. file.txt~CHRIS13 .</li><li>A daily script will delete the hourly backups from that day last week, leaving the freshest versions from that day.</li><li>Oldest daily folder will be deleted when there’s no more space.</li></ol>
Any issues?

Right now I’m copying my entire hard drive to the external one, so it’s taking a while, but rsync will just copy over modified files, so it shouldn’t take so long next time. Being a laptop, Charlie won’t be connected to the USB drive all the time, but I don’t think missing a few hours will make my backup too stale. The plans are not set in stone, because I’m not sure how much space each day will take up. (The drive I’m backing up is 65.5 GiB, and the external drive is 295.7 GiB.) I’m amazed that I’ve let myself go all these months without backing up.

I suppose my apartment could go up in flames, or maybe a power surge could destroy both Charlie and the USB drive. I could set up a file server at my parents’ house and back up remotely (and securely) over the Internet, but my data’s not that important.

I should be asleep.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:18 am

I could write the dos script, lol

just backup things you need.

My Documents, or My Music, not C:Windows

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:29 am

Lamez wrote:
Chris Vogel wrote: I think the experiment would be more interesting if we stuck a Canadian in the dishwasher instead.

Ya, but how would we ping him?

I guess we could stick a wifi receiver in his butt, then plug him in, and install win98se.

Don't forget to install all of the porn/gambling-ad popup window spawning malware. Let's throw a Sub7 trojan horse in as well. All of that with 16MB RAM.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:43 am

oh wait you run linux, never mind

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:54 am

No one actually "runs" linux. Linux is a myth, a legend, a farce - much like the elusive sasquatch.

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Lamez · Post by **Lamez** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:11 pm

Stasi wrote: No one actually "runs" linux. Linux is a myth, a legend, a farce - much like the elusive sasquatch.

No, I am pretty sure people run linux as their os of choice.

lol, http://www.linux.com/

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:45 pm

Lamez wrote: just backup things you need.

My Documents, or My Music, not C:Windows

I also want all the configuration files. Storage space is cheap enough these days, and rsync just takes a few seconds to synchronize the two drives.

Little things that make me happy: Besides suspending after a certain period of idleness, my external hard drive will also suspend when Charlie suspends – and wake when she wakes, mounted and everything! I suppose this isn’t much of something to get excited about, but anyway.

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