Slayers applying to necro/spellweaving spells/holy light

dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:41 pm

That would be cool 8)

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:04 pm

SDI would be kewl too...why else would it be on a non-SC weapon?

http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.ph ... tegory=846

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Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:05 pm

dprantl wrote:That would be cool 8)

Hmmm think osi had a reason not to add those to the list. Cannot recall exactly why though. Think it had to do something with necromancy being mostly curses and area spells not falling under the same category as direct damage. Personally, I think area spells and curses should not fall under the effects of slayers but any direct damage spell from those systems (If any) should.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:07 pm

SDI should apply to necro, if it does not then I'll have to add it. Area spells are not affected by spell damage modifiers though, but direct spells are, and some exceptions such as poison strike (which is an area spell, but still directly casted on a mob)

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:33 pm

A bump for Death and Squirrel. Mostly Death.

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theindigothief · Post by **theindigothief** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:37 pm

So SDI doesn't work on wither? Ewwies. I thought it did for some reason.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:41 pm

SDI and slayers have never worked on area spells, they only work on direct damage spells.

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theindigothief · Post by **theindigothief** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:10 pm

I found a direct post on stratics where someone with 101 SDI can single wither tier four champ spawns.

Not sure if it is valid though. I do know that people who would solo champ spawns would have HIGH SDI suits.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:14 pm

Hmm so SDI affects area spells on OSI, did not figure it did.

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theindigothief · Post by **theindigothief** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:28 pm

http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/uo/s ... o=&fpart=1

Not sure. Some say yes and others say no. I remember hearing that it did and that is why most spawners like massive SDI.

Not sure tho.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:12 am

how do they get 101 sdi?

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:09 am

Yeah really. The most I calculated possible on EA is about 52.

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theindigothief · Post by **theindigothief** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:52 pm

Birtches, Scrappers. ring brace Gotta be more Ill look into it.

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d. · Post by d. » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:03 pm

kasa- 12
birchers- 10
bracers- 10
ring- 12
brace- 12
pendant of the magi- 5
scrappers- 25

86 total, and all of that is attainable on osi. That's just off the top of my head, I could be wrong.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:39 pm

add a 12 sdi taly and that would be damn close to 101. In the post the guy says he has a bard/necro. So... if slayers worked on wither, and with disco, then I can see maybe killing some 4th tier monsters with a single wither. Depends on the monster. 4th tier coon, oh yeah. Cmon red, lets get this implimented.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:52 pm

The wither would be capped for pvp but it could slightly be bumped for pvm. I don't like the idea of somebody owning a bunch of players just by spamming wither in wraith form.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:30 pm

wither is already capped for pvp. Which IMHO it is underpowered. Wither in a duel is bad. Wither when champing and you are on foot should be a good defense against raiders. It should be enough defense to deter a raider from getting in close for a weapon special. Right now, wither is a waste to use as defense.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:56 pm

wither is meant mostly for pvm, but a group of people doing wither can still be very lethal, not to mention it can mass disturb even 1 vs 1 since it casts so fast.

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:22 pm

Which is why I never actually complained about wither being crippled. I do however want to see SDI affect it for pvm since it should be standard in RUO. Dumb bastages.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:37 am

sliptongue69 wrote:Which is why I never actually complained about wither being crippled. I do however want to see SDI affect it for pvm since it should be standard in RUO. Dumb bastages.

One would think that the sphynx being included would be standard too but apparently not

.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:49 am

Working on this right now. its mostly working but theres a few broken spells. I had to recode a lot of functions in spell.cs to accommodate this change, due to how badly coded some of the stuff was. Word of death is also not working right, its doing like 300 damage on something with full hp. it is effected by SDI/slayers as well now - though the damage should still be like 1 if mob is full hp.

I'll also be capping SDI to 300, so basically double slayer will get you to the cap. That or 1 slayer + 100 SDI property. Arcane empowerment + reaper form also gives you bonus (about 60%)

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:02 am

GG Squirrel. You guys bust ass.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:50 am

Red Squirrel wrote:I'll also be capping SDI to 300, so basically double slayer will get you to the cap. That or 1 slayer + 100 SDI property.

Ack no, why? 300 is ok, but it sounds like you want to make it 200. OSI + most places don't have a cap for PvM:

http://www.uostuff.com/index.php?title= ... e_Increase

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:30 am

This isn't OSI or most places. O.o

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:16 pm

Will be 300. We're talking like 100 damage fireballs here, I just don't want it to get any higher then that. Hitting that cap will be very hard without slayers. I still need to figure out how I want to calculate slayers though, like should it be calculated before or after SDI/arcane empowerment/reaper form, that I'm not sure yet, and that can make a huge difference.

Slayer weps will work for spells too (assuming it has SC)

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