Storage setup

VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:13 pm

I am looking for a storge setup for my photos. I am looking for something external that uses Firewire, or SATA

Kinda like these but you add your own hard drives:
LaCie
Wiebetech

PC / Server that can do the same thing within a network.

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The Gheyness · Post by **The Gheyness** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:21 pm

Are you looking for an entirely new system for this, like those two sort of are, or just general storage thingies?

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:31 pm

Well it cant be in my pc its kinda full between my 3 optical drives and my 2 hard drives. The key is I am looking for hot swappable drives so I can move one to a safe as a backup then have a few mounted drives to have for all the time access.

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Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:35 pm

This is what I save my photos in . . . but I'm sure that doesn't help you any.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:45 pm

Legend your the man

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The Gheyness · Post by **The Gheyness** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:06 am

I'd just get a big ass SATA drive and a hard drive external casing. I've heard of high-end servers even using setups like that.

http://www.lindy.com/us/ is one place to look.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:24 am

Yeah I'd do the same. Or get one of those network storage systems which has removable drives. But if it's only for photos, speed is less of an issue, so if you want to cut costs go with IDE drives. Its not like you'll be transfering 100's of GB to the drive in a single transfer.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:26 pm

Ya Im still not sure what Im going to do, I swithced to using the RAW file format over JPEG and the files are 7.5 megs each so I have to come up with a fix soon becuase I will end up spending a lot on DVD+RW if I dont.

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000 · Post by **000** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:33 pm

Does your PC support USB 2.0? If it does, I'd get an external hard drive. They're not that expensive anymore.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:09 pm

I would stick with jpeg, just don't compress them if you don't want to loose quality, since you'll still get a small enough file size.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:10 pm

Well thats what I am looking at but I dont want 20 external USB 2.0 drives, but rather 1 box with hot swappable drives via USB 2.0, Firewire, or e.SATA.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:14 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: I would stick with jpeg, just don't compress them if you don't want to loose quality, since you'll still get a small enough file size.

Ah Red one JPEG is always compressed, where RAW/TIFF are lossless and provide 50% more data per color channel for error correction, editing, and resizing.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:16 pm

Are you sure? Since in photoshop you can save a jpg with 12/12 quality which means no compression. Here's an example:

The first is an uncompress jpg, you can zoom in and notice all the colors are intact, no fading, or changing of colors. (all colors used are pure: ex: #FF000 #00FF00 etc in exeption of that faded blue block)

The second one is 11/12 compression, and then it's where you start seeing it, in the faded blue part, mostly.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:18 am

Okey Red your making me do this

This is taken from one of my favorite websites:

How many of you shoot RAW all of the time? Please raise your hands.

Ok, I see about 15% of your hands raised. Those of you with your hands at your sides….in my opinion you are incorrect. I believe that 100% of you are shooting RAW images, 100% of the time. OK. I am playing with you, but hear me out. When your camera is set to RAW, the picture is taken, and a RAW file is produced, and then it is written to the media card. However, guess what? When your camera is set to JPEG, the picture is taken, and a RAW file is produced (in memory), and then the camera goes ahead and develops the RAW file into a JPEG and discards the RAW data. So here is the RAW Truth…..

JPEG Shooter – The camera captures RAW data, and it then develops the image into a JPEG or TIF. The RAW data is discarded. The photographer gets the camera’s rendition of the file and is essentially stuck with it unless a loss of quality is to be tolerated through editing. And this may be OK if all the parameters like exposure and White Balance were properly set in the camera. But in the real world that is rarely the case 100% of the time.

RAW Shooter – The camera captures RAW data, and it then saves the RAW data onto the memory card for future development(s). The RAW data (ALL of the captured data) is preserved. The photographer gets the full potential of the image, and will maintain that potential forever by archiving the RAW file. (With many cameras, you can shoot RAW + JPEG which saves the JPEG and RAW files to the memory card. Perfect except for the extra space this consumes, but a great transitional mode while getting used to or experimenting with shooting RAW).

Other fact taken from the same website:

A 12 Bit raw File
Within the first F/Stop, which contains the Brightest Tones 2048 levels available
Within the second F/Stop, which contains Bright Tones 1024 levels available
Within the third F/Stop, which contains the Mid-Tones 512 levels available
Within the fourth F/Stop, which contains Dark Tones 256 levels available
Within the fifth F/Stop, which contains the Darkest Tones 128 levels available

An 8 Bit JPG File
Within the first F/Stop, which contains the Brightest Tones 69 levels available
Within the second F/Stop, which contains Bright Tones 50 levels available
Within the third F/Stop, which contains the Mid-Tones 37 levels available
Within the fourth F/Stop, which contains Dark Tones 27 levels available
Within the fifth F/Stop, which contains the Darkest Tones 20 levels available

So the lesson is if you want to make sure your pictures looks how you want it to look shot in RAW if you want to let the camera make the call shoot in JPEG

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:48 pm

Update: I found what I want now I just need to find where to buy it
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...adynas600.shtml

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