Making a website

Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:54 pm

One of the people who visited my house today is the pastor of a small church. He mentioned to me that he would like his church to eventually have a website, but he didn't know who he would have design it, or how much that would cost, or if there were any free places that host websites, and I have no idea about such things. Are there any suggestions someone could give me that I can relay to him?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:59 pm

I design websites ( http://services.iceteks.com/webdesign.htm ) though my prices may be kinda high for a church budget and I would do it as charity work but I don't have that much time these days...

As for hosting there's plenty of web hosts I've only been with one and they sucked (rcthost.com) and now I'm with moose.cc which is more private but he still has cpanel and stuff, and will answer questions rather quick if you need help with something. There's also nethosted.co.uk, have not tried them before but cg who occasionally posts here owns it.

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Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:14 pm

Yeah, I knew there were people on here who had the skills to make websites, but I wasn't even able to give him a general cost figure. Thanks for the link.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:41 am

With great disgust, I offer this:

http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/learn2/HowItWorks4_Pro.html

I despise Geocities. But if you don't know how to make your own sites, this comes with a free site generator that's decent, and for a modest monthly fee, it'll get rid of the ads and come with it's own domain name.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:16 pm

Yeah that's another option and it's free. I'm suprised too I checked and you get 3GB of bandwidth per hour! That's 93GB per month, it's what I have, but for 20 bucks a month! But I doubt geocities has php, mysql etc... so that's where my money is going towards.

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Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:22 pm

I might just have my friend check out this thread, so if you could please explain what php and mysql is, so he can decide if he wants to spend the extra money for those things.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:10 pm

for a static site you won't really need it. php is a server side scripting language that makes pages dynamic. A very simple example is displaying the time, every time the page loads the server runs the script to then generate the page with the right time so every time the page is loaded the date changed, but no one actually updated the site. mysql is a database format which goes with php. This forum uses php and the posts and stuff are stored in a mysql database. if you go to http://www.iceteks.com mostly everything you see on the home page is loaded from a database and generated on the fly. well the home page is actually cached and only regenerated every 15 minutes but that's a different story...

So for a church site you probably don't really need php and mysql unless you want a discussion forum, maybe a photo gallery where people can upload pics etc then you'd need it. So it really depends what kind of site you want to do and how often it is updated. For something that displays news for example php and mysql would be better then having to manually edit everything. Though you need to know the php coding language to do anything with it, obviously. But it's nearly impossible to find a free host that offers php and mysql.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:30 pm

Bookworm wrote: I might just have my friend check out this thread, so if you could please explain what php and mysql is, so he can decide if he wants to spend the extra money for those things.

http://www.tripod.lycos.com/

They will provide you with CGI if you want to have that sort of thing, but it comes with a bunch of easy community tools.

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Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:04 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:
So for a church site you probably don't really need php and mysql

You're right, he would most likely just want a simple information only type site.

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000 · Post by **000** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:35 am

Want to learn good basic web design? Good free basic tutorials.

Webmonkey

HTML Goodies

Both great sites for beginners.

As far as software. I use software but it's not WYSWYG type software.
After you learn some basic HTML, this program is great. Free and good also.

1st page 2000

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:41 am

yeah it's always best to code the html and 1st page is a good way to learn since it does some of it for you, but you still see the code as it's being done.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:46 am

Red Squirrel wrote: yeah it's always best to code the html and 1st page is a good way to learn since it does some of it for you, but you still see the code as it's being done.

I agree, though if you want your business, church, whatever to look it's best, you should either use a generator or have someone else do it if it's your first page, unless if you have others around you who will give honest feedback and you don't mind redoing things many, many times

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odders · Post by **odders** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:55 pm

yeah, im always happy to let newbs know im better than em.

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