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All well and true. However, it is the government that TRAINS you to associate the sexual organs as "naughty bits." If you feel the need to protect your child from normal, common parts of a human being please do so, but if, let's just say IF, the middle finger had to be covered up because it is used as an insultive gesture and may "offend" others, there would be an enormous ruckus from some, whilst others would be happy as pigs in crap.
we as parents, have a right to determine what is appropriate behavior for our children to experience. Perhaps you think it's okay to tell your kids to "fudge off," but there are many parents out there who do not. If we allow public nudity, public profanity, public indecency of any kind, we are basically taking the parent's right to determine what is appropriate for their own children away from the parents. Is that really where we want to go???
Therefore, we, as adults, should be restricted from doing perfectly normal and harmless things for the kiddies? I think not. You only make things a problem if you want them to be. If your kid sees a wang and you tell the kid it's a naughty bit and should be covered up, you are assigning the "sex" variable to a wang. If the kid did not know it was for sex before, hesheit knows now. Ditto for fudge and company. You as a parent are royally screwing your kid up without knowing it, therefore the need for filtering out content. Why should parents turn the world into a kid friendly, oh-my-gosh-instead-of-oh-my-god kind of place? If you want to preserve your child's innocence, lock them up inside a community only for parents of children, no nudity or sex or violence allowed.
If we allow public nudity, public profanity, public indecency of any kind, we are basically taking the parent's right to determine what is appropriate for their own children away from the parents
YES! It is our right as human beings. Speaking from a humanistic point of view, taking away our most basic rights, the right to curse, the right to walk around wearing nothing but a smile. Outlawing these things would be absolutely Nazistic and level to what Hitler did. Why should you force others to do what you think is best for your child? Only YOU need do that, we don't need to sacrifice our freedoms for your kid.
Assigning an offensive value to something makes it offensive.
Okay, next thing. Look at the muslims. Their idea of morality for women is to cover them up when they are married. I'm not even going to get into the amount of ruckus the feminist would raise if this idea became famous among nazi-whoops, parents like yourselves.
Now, let's imagine that some muslim dude comes up to the Queen or to President Bush and asks them to start covering up the women, he would get a resounding "NO!"
Giving a parent the right to block out things for their children has been a bad idea and always will be as long as people like you exist, people who would have us all saying, "Oh, fie! I do believe I dropped me pen!" instead of "F__knuggets, damn pen fell on the ground.".
Your morals are not the same as his.
Now, forcing your morals on someone else? That is a blatant violation of humanism. One of the things I like about the UK is the freedom to do things. To curse, to sex, to fart in public. Same goes for the US. Taking away this most basic of freedoms would be equal to flat out fascism. Just ask Red how he would like it if Christianity was deemed inappropiate for kids and was outlawed. He'd crazy go nuts.
I really, really hate people who are so immature as to yell "I DON'T WANT MY KID TO SEEHEAR fudge" when I speak about censorship. That's not really a valid argument. It would be like saying, "The human male's genitals are too constricted by tighty whities. Therefore, all men shuld wear boxes." It's not a valid point. And as I said before, you behave as if your child would be forced to see nudity or hear cussing. Don't like your kid hearing that? Keep them inside the house. It's almost as crazy an idea as removeing our basic rights so the kiddies won't be harmed. It just doesn't make sense!
Parents, get over it. Nudity is there, it ain't going anywhere. Same goes for the word fudge, and sexing. I won't allow you to undermine my rights simply so your little crotch cricket doesn't see a pair of tits.
Sometimes, it pains me to see how backward we are when it comes to these things.
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"Oh, I'm being harmed cause they're making me sit next to this fat person on the plane," or "Oh, I'm being caused distress cause they made me ride on the train across from a Muslim." Everybody'd be suing the people they don't like simply because they don't agree with who or what they are. Disagreement or intolerability does not equate to harm or damage. 
