legalize "computer crime"

shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:02 pm

I appreciate the gesture of confidence.

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:06 pm

Shenbaw, you're going to hell, do you realize that?!?!? The divine has spoken and you challenge him at every corner. Shame on you!

Funny thing about religious "logic" as with the case of Red, you can simply accept Christ as your saviour and you'll go to Heaven no matter what you condone or do yourself.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:08 pm

Stasi wrote: Funny thing about religious "logic" as with the case of Red, you can simply accept Christ as your saviour and you'll go to Heaven no matter what you condone or do yourself.

Steal software? No problem, it's not like stealing is one of the 10 commandments or anything

Hacking? Why, hacking wasn't around when I got these guys to write the bible, come right in!

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:12 pm

sintekk wrote:
Stasi wrote: Funny thing about religious "logic" as with the case of Red, you can simply accept Christ as your saviour and you'll go to Heaven no matter what you condone or do yourself.

Steal software? No problem, it's not like stealing is one of the 10 commandments or anything

Hacking? Why, hacking wasn't around when I got these guys to write the bible, come right in!

*sniff* *sniff* *sniff*, ugh. Sintekk, you have the stink of someone who's destined for Hell.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:12 pm

About comparing murder to sexual imoraity yes it's the same because it's boolen, it's either it's wrong or it's not.

Murder, sexual immoraty, stealing, yes even hacking, drugs etc.... is wrong. There's no such thing as wronger, it's just wrong, or it's not. Think 0 and 1 there's no in between.

But no use arguing about gays, there's already other threads for that, and my beliefs are wrong anyway, and since there's no such thing as God, then there's no use depending on the bible to know what's right and what's wrong, I can depend on this world instead since if someone I do does not affect anyone, then it's ok since my family does not care anyway. There happy, I admited that I'm wrong about everything. Happy now?

(God, sorry for pulling off a Peter and denying you like that. Amen.)

On serious note I think it comes to a point where it's pointless to argue, I can't force my beliefs so if you want to believe all this sinful stuff is ok then good for you but I'm sticking to what I know.

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:13 pm

Stasi wrote: Shenbaw, you're going to hell, do you realize that?!?!? The divine has spoken and you challenge him at every corner. Shame on you!

Don't encourage him.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:15 pm

I'm sure he already knows, if not well he'll know sooner or later.

I'm by all means not innocent or sin less but at least I've been redeemed and have a better understanding of what's right and wrong.

Honestly I'm not sure what God would think of hacking I think it really depends on the situation.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:16 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: I'm sure he already knows, if not well he'll know sooner or later.

Red, you forgot to mention why gay marriage is bad without using my SuperFun List of Words you can't use

EDIT: Nevermind, I see you evaded the question in the post 2 posts above

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:19 pm

Gay is wrong because Allah says so.

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:19 pm

I love it!

First he boasts...

I had just used affect famillies and health as examples. There are MANY other factors involved why both should not be legalized.

Followed by several requests for substantiation Let's hear it Red!!! Then surprise, surprise...

no use arguing about gays

and

it's pointless to argue

Oh, the minute someone calls you bluff, there's coincidentally no use in arguing about gays. Give me a break.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:21 pm

because no matter what I say you'll just argue it anyway. I only repeated myself like a million times that it's wrong because it's inpure and against God's will and that it will screw up families etc etc...

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:22 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: because no matter what I say you'll just argue it anyway. I only repeated myself like a million times that it's wrong because it's inpure and against God's will and that it will screw up families etc etc...

*BUZZZ* Sorry red, you used several words that weren't allowed

Try again!

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:24 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: I only repeated myself like a million times that it's wrong because it's inpure and against God's will and that it will screw up families etc etc...

No, you repeated yourself like a million times because you have nothing more factual to say. sintekk and I have both asked you to leave God out of your argument against gayness and drugs and you can't do it, so you're quiting.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:24 pm

[mod hat]
now lets try to be nice here
[/mod hat]

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:25 pm

Anyway I was in the middle of a php script and had to go eat then happened to check here quickly... now I'm being unproductive time to get back to work. Been wanting to put this thing online but never realized some new bill passed could affect my programming.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:25 pm

MrSelf wrote:

[mod hat]
now lets try to be nice here
[/mod hat]

I think Shenbaw could be more vicious if he wanted too...

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:26 pm

Yeah, I think I'm about done.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:26 pm

Perhaps the question should stem to the next level in that regard; why is homosexuality wrong?

or

perhaps we should discuss hacking?

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:27 pm

sintekk wrote:
MrSelf wrote:

[mod hat]
now lets try to be nice here
[/mod hat]

I think Shenbaw could be more vicious if he wanted too...

Is Shenbaw into bdsm? Mmmmm, then he can join Legend and I....

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:30 pm

Where ya goin?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:30 pm

shenbaw wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: I only repeated myself like a million times that it's wrong because it's inpure and against God's will and that it will screw up families etc etc...
No, you repeated yourself like a million times because you have nothing more factual to say. sintekk and I have both asked you to leave God out of your argument against gayness and drugs and you can't do it, so you're quiting.

Ummm because God is the main reason, but you just reject Him so what can I do.

The onther reason, the one I still hold since before I was christian is because it simply is wrong. You don't need no scientific reason for something to be wrong, sometimes common sense is all it takes, but you don't have any of that so every single thing has to be backed up by years of research and I don't have the computing power to prove every single thing wrong against you.

Thing is, there's more to morals then scientific facts and such, sometimes all it takes is common sense, but you refuse to go by that.

But it's ok, since judgement day is coming anyway, so how about we wait till then to see who's right.

Now back to php if I can at least get the main map module in full working order by the end of this hour I'll be happy. (working on a web based game thingy)

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:33 pm

As for the original subject, if they did legalize hacking it would still have to be decided by the ISPs if they tolerate it, and most probably would not. Difference is, insead of going to jail and wasting those resources, you'd be kicked off that ISP. Basically same thing as what it is for spamming now, though spamming is such a big problem perhaps it is better to illegalize it, so maybe hacking would become a problem too, but at least it's not as ennoying.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:46 pm

Common sense is the opiate of the masses, used to justify ignorance, naiveness, and complacency over analyzation and enlightenment.

edit: insert (and)

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:47 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: but at least it's not as ennoying.

I don't think that was on purpose, but that made me laugh!

ennoying: annoying internet users

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:23 pm

e-mail, e-bay, e-trade, e-nnoy

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