Elemental Lord

rizzen · Post by **rizzen** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:49 pm

well a herd of us did him today, the loot pack needs some serious bumping, and his area attacks need a good nurfing all in all worst boss ever

but thats just my opinion heh

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Hypntick · Post by **Hypntick** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:51 pm

that thing was a huge pain in the rear and yes loot needs upping or something i think most of us lost 100k or more in insurance dying to that guy lol

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RecoElgred · Post by **RecoElgred** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:52 pm

it needs to drop more than just a measly runic hammer (shadow) i add and one demitel wep when there 10 of us dying every 2 seconds for nothing ,either every char must get something or its not worth an hour of 10 peoples time.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:05 pm

Actually that thing can drop valorite runic, just lower chance. Also everyone can get an arty, but thats all % based like the rest of the demitels. (it falls in same category)

He's hard due to the fact you need to complete a champ spawn to spawn him, but compared to the other demitels he's the easiest. At least for a melee char. I can take a double look at the lootpack though. It should be at least comparable to a DF, maybe even more.

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rizzen · Post by **rizzen** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:19 pm

certainly alot harder 2 kill than a DF considering how hard he is to kill with 10 ppl and how much insurance u end up spending tryin 2 take him down he should be guaranteed a runic!

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:26 pm

I nerfed him a bit, the difficulty level varied allot from spawn to spawn, so you guys must of got a really maxed out one for it to be that hard. I lowered the max skillsets now. Magery was in the 200's, its now in the 100's. That alone may help a lot.

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hickman · Post by **hickman** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:28 pm

yea that way he cant insta kill you with a lighting with 75 resist

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sliptongue69 · Post by **sliptongue69** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:33 am

I agree, for the amount of work that was put into this beast, he definitely wasn't worth the effort. I wasn't really there for the loot (as I know it's all garbage anyway), but the fact that only one of us got an arti is kinda gay as well. As far as runics, hrmm...drop a random tailor runic would be nice too.

He is NOT the easiest demitel. IMO the easiest is almondcrust, but he whomps on a lot of people. Hell, Blood Beast is probably easier than the elemental lord...DEFINITELY drop his arrow damage...that is what screwed everyone over time and time again.

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E.Machine · Post by **E.Machine** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:50 am

for the rewards you can get, its difficulty is definitely worth it.

Bosses aren't supposed to be easy.

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rizzen · Post by **rizzen** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:57 am

dont really want him 2 b easy, just worth it, which he isnt

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E.Machine · Post by **E.Machine** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:24 am

rizzen wrote:dont really want him 2 b easy, just worth it, which he isnt

If you have seen some of the gear my smithy has made with a val hammer on this shard..... worth it.

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Nosferatu · Post by **Nosferatu** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:43 am

IMO he is the second hardet demetiel we have, and considering you have to do the HARDEST champ spawn to get him doesnt make sence he would be of the hardest demetiels lol.

I had fun thou im glad it wasnt easy we had like 10 people but when arrows shoot for 90 damage on a 70 physical suit it sucks ... A LOT.

It took us way too long to kill it imo we had dexxers , mages, necros, you name it , it was a taskforce and one person got an arty at least but the loot was horrible it had basically no items and the items it did have were junk anyway, i made off with ore, and lost more insurance than i ever have.

Almnicrus is the easiest demetiel i die maybe 1 or 2 times it gets boring, blackhole.. just as easy except i never died last time we killed it, Malikus, i never died fighting it last time i did it.. Bloodbeast.. died maybe 8 times with the force when i last did it..

doing humus with his fireball, or crystal deamon in 10x10.. suicidal.. wont try it.

those are the two that concern me.. an insane fireball that insta kills isnt even worth trying especially when it just kills pets insta too theres no way to like be a team when u just insta die... and doesnt he multiple now?

yeah fix that one.

now that the crystal is in a 10x10 area *sarcasm* i think the amount of mob's possible for him to spawn should be up to a certin limit or something because eventually it would be impossible if someone decided to be a dick and use a storm trooper xbow and just keep hitting it to fuck you over it wouldnt even be possible to kill of the spawn eventually..

Malikus is very balanced in my opinion he has his strengths and weakness's

Almni is the same his first form can be a bitch but the second is pretty easy but than again you have to kill him twice so its worth it.

Bloodbeast in my opinion is the most perfectlly balanced he is as equally hard as any of them and if done right can be easy, if not its a pain.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:34 am

Elemental spawn is far from the hardest spawn lol. Every try oaks? Yeah, thats the hardest. Semidar's can be nasty too but not as bad. I've soloed every spawn but oaks. Oaks I'd be lucky to make it past 1st spawn.

The trick with elemental spawn is deathblades, the shadow iron elementals are imune to deathblades, but the hit area from them will kill everything around. So you get the blade "stuck" then bring the npc to safety and lure everything to the blade.

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Nosferatu · Post by **Nosferatu** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:29 am

yeh me and reco did oaks didnt take too long.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:05 am

For me, this is how I would rate their difficulty:

1) Elemental Lord - With an arrow shot that goes uber far and almost kills you in one shot, it's simply way too easy for him to 2-hit combo you for insta-death. Especially with his god-like spell damage. And you need a skull first on top of all that.

2) Humus - No longer has insta-kill breath, but he's now in a small area and the breath redlines most full resist players, so he poses a similar problem as the Elemental Lord.

3) Crystal Demon - Now that he's inside a small area, even though the spawn is not as numerous as before, he is still a huge bitch to kill. He can also trap you in some crystals = guaranteed death unless you can teleport away.

4) Blackhole - Not that hard in terms of getting yourself killed, but if you don't have enough people, it will take AGES.

5) Malkilus - Not that hard, but if you make a mistake you will pay for it with your life fast, especially with an explo + ?? combo.

6) Almincrus - Not that hard, just takes some time.

7) Blood Beast - Definitely the easiest of the bunch. I haven't died to him in months. All you need is a blood ele slayer and demon slayers and you're set as a mage or archer. As soon as you see blood, stop attacking and ready your blood ele slayer.

2, 3 and 4 are really close together, it was hard to pick the order...

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:11 pm

Humus' breath has been given a scalar a looong time ago. At full health, yes, he will probably kill you with that fireball. That's why you run behind a wall when you suspect he may fire it (Or for the lucky samurai, cast evasion). As his hits go down, that fireball will hurt, but probably won't kill you. Biggest threat about humus now I'd say is the pillar of fire he raises from the ground. Stall too long on one of them and you'll be hurting.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:01 am

Since I haven't done the Elemental Lord in a long time, I decided to revisit him last night. All I have to say is, OMG. Way to increase his speed of movement! Also, of special note is how his arrow range, speed and HCI increase as his HP goes down. Nothing like being *FIVE* screens away and getting hit by a wtf arrow for 70 dmg (at full resists of course) when you think you're out of range.

I also like the message, "That cannot be disarmed". What is the bow grown into its arm or something?

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RecoElgred · Post by **RecoElgred** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:08 am

LOL u'd never kill it alone............ shard would revert before u killed it. would take you years took like 2 hours with atleast 7 of us

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:00 pm

RecoElgred wrote:LOL u'd never kill it alone............ shard would revert before u killed it. would take you years took like 2 hours with atleast 7 of us

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Dumples · Post by **Dumples** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:15 pm

Actually... we died a few times, and gave up due to it running into server wars. Enkel and I worked on Elemental lord a short while a couple weeks ago. We started about 45 minutes before SW and get him down about a fourth of his health bar. At the rate we were going it would have taken another couple hours and probably a good 15 deaths each.

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