lanning help

wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:03 am

I've done this before, but i can't seem to gain access to or from my friends computer to my laptop. Both running xp and connecting via firewire. In my Workgroup i can see his computer but i don't have access to his shares, and he can't see my computer even though he's on the same workgroup, anyone know whats up?

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:04 am

run the internet connection wizard first on his (host) computer, then on your (client) computer. then, make sure that the files that need to be shared are shared.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:08 am

You might want to use ethernet though since firewire is not really meant for networking but for video transfer. So the bandwidth is great, but it could be one of the computers has trouble using it as network or something.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:51 am

fragged one wrote: run the internet connection wizard first on his (host) computer, then on your (client) computer. then, make sure that the files that need to be shared are shared.

Nah, i set up a network between my desktop and my laptop, and when you snd 14 gigs to another computer, firewire is the way to go.

Fragged, i think i tried that multiple times. I try again and post the results.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:37 am

ok, checked the services and policies on both computers. We got his computer to once see the network, but when i see his computer in the network i made, i have no access to it. I made sure to share his whole c: just for the sake of this. Whats up, and why can't i lan these fuckers?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:49 am

Are they on the same workgroup? Sometimes it's silly things like that we forget... especially on large networks.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:38 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Are they on the same workgroup? Sometimes it's silly things like that we forget... especially on large networks.

and he can't see my computer even though he's on the same workgroup, anyone know whats up?

thats whats pissing me off. I've done this before and thats how simple it was, choosing the same workgroups and voila.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:10 am

Oh is the xp firewall on? Since that tends to block netbios connections, well it blocks what it wants when it wants... it's a crappy firewall.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:12 am

that does seem to make sense, but would i be able to see his computer in my workgroup that were both in? We haven't tried the xp firewall, but we have tried his norton firewall. good looks red.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:28 am

Had that happen many times since it's something overlooked. Since it's intermittent, that firewall only works when it feels like it.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:44 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Had that happen many times since it's something overlooked. Since it's intermittent, that firewall only works when it feels like it.

that was our problem, thanks my man. Transferring 2100 mp3's in 25 minutes

Firewire is the way to go for networking.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:50 pm

Cool glad you fixed it. What is the speed you get with firewire anyway? I never even knew you could use that to network.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:23 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Cool glad you fixed it. What is the speed you get with firewire anyway? I never even knew you could use that to network.

heheh, you should look into it since it's 400mbps

4x's the speed of ethernet. When my desktop and laptop were lanned, i sent 14 gigs in a half an hour to the laptop.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:20 pm

Nice did not know that. But does it have a long range? And can it go over ethernet cables? If yes it would be possible for me to switch. not know though, have to stop spending money college this sept. I still need to find a job.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:28 am

wow, you really misinterpreted that. Firewire is a cable, ranging from 4 pins to 6 pins. You need a fire wire port on both machines, which is different from ethernet. It's used to digital video mainly, but i got the idea to try and network machines with them, works beautifully. I think firewire isn't used for networking as much, because the cable costs a decent amount, more than ethernet, know what i mean.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:29 am

errr, IEEE 1394

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:27 am

Yeah but I'm wondering if they sell adapters so it can go through ethernet. since if I decide to switch over I don't want to start knocking walls down again.

But I'll probably stick with ethernet. If I upgrade I'll go gigabit, and that way 10/100 equipment is still compatible. And I assume a firewire router is quite pricy.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:56 pm

Why would you take something that runs at 400mbps and bottleneck it with ethernet? That doesn't make sense.

I also know nothing about networking with firewire as compared to ethernet, im sure there are some problems with firewire,but for a small LAN, the babys perfect.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:31 pm

No I meant to just use the ethernet cables to run wirewire, since I think there's enough coper pairs in an ethernet cable, so the interface/encoding would not have to change, just the wireing. Would make it easy to convert an ethernet network to firewire since you don't have to rewire the whole building. fiber, then that's a different story, you can't send light signals on an electric interface.

The only issue since ethernet cables are thin wires, maybe it would in fact slow down firewire interface, not sure. I never used anything firewire before so I don't know much about it. I have a firewire port on my PC though, I just never had anything to plug into it.

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wldkos · Post by **wldkos** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:27 am

Red, your dillusional ideas scare me sometimes. That would never make sense in a production or any type situation to

with wires like that. Just stick with ethernet and gigabit ethernet and you'll be fine. Firewire is made for digital video mostly. Im sure you could lan using USB as well, but it's much slower than firewire.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:21 am

If I ever upgrade though I'll probably go gigabit. It's actually not that expensive now. I could probably upgrade the network for under $1000. Something I'll think about when I have my own house.

(heck there will be as many ethernet jacks as power sockets)

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