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Red Squirrel wrote: It was funny at the time, but I did not realize he was gay either. :o  Gives a whole new meaning to archery. :o
Isn't there that saying, "love the sinner hate the sin"? Maybe not poke fun at the gays and spew forth brimstone, but try and be understanding?

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sintekk wrote: love the sinner
That's all I'm saying. :lol:


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God feeds off of sin, so he loves sinners most of all.....so I've read.

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Red Squirrel wrote: It was funny at the time, but I did not realize he was gay either. :o  Gives a whole new meaning to archery. :o
Isn't there that saying, "love the sinner hate the sin"? Maybe not poke fun at the gays and spew forth brimstone, but try and be understanding?
True, and I don't hate him for that, I just hate what his decision is. But not like I can do much. Just have to be careful in UO. :lol:

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Red Squirrel wrote: I just hate what his decision is.
I'm sure his decision to be gay was just as easy as yours was to be a red headed male. :hmmm:


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That's irrevelent, I did not decide what DNA was going to be in my cells. It's not a decision you make.

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Red Squirrel wrote: That's irrevelent, I did not decide what DNA was going to be in my cells.  It's not a decision you make.
Neither did he. He was born that way Red. It's not a decision.

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LOL who you go out with IS a decision. It's like what you eat. You decide what you eat.

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Red Squirrel wrote: LOL who you go out with IS a decision.  It's like what you eat. You decide what you eat.
Do you honesty think that a person sat down one day and said "I want to fancy men, I want to have to put up with predjudice all my life, I want to possibly be shunned by all my friends"?

Life would be easier just to be straight, but thats not them.

Did you choose to have the mental capacity to be good at computers? or was that something that you were born with.

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Well some people have a more feminine side then others, so it will probably influence the decision, but won't be the main deciding factor.

As for computers, I did do the decision to get into computers. I used to want to be a plummer. LOL Then I changed my mind to electrician, then somehow decided to go towards computers. (safer, and more money lol)

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You chose to go into computers, you did not choose to have the mental ability to go into computers, you just had it. I doubt I could ever get my head around coding and the like as much as I would like to be able to do it.

No body would choose a life of discrimination, they are born gay the same way some people are born with other charectaristics of personality.

I'm sure that some gay people are tearing themselves to bits inside because of fear of rejection by their "friends", some gay people contemplate, or even commit suicide because of who they are.

Some gay people have tried to live the lie, they have tried the "straight" life with girlfriends even wives and kids, but in the end, no matter how much they may want to be "normal" in some peoples eyes at least, they never will be.

And homosexuality is the absolute worst reason to break up a friendship. I'm friends with people because of them and their personality, not who they like.

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That's what society tries to force on people that sexual orientation is something you're born with, but it's a decision. For example, if I want to right now, I can decide to go ask a guy out and hope for the best, or I can go ask a girl out and hope for the best. It's my choice.

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Its not a choice, you can go out now and ask a guy out. You may not feel sexually attracted to that guy but gay men are.

How can you justify some one wanting to live a life of discrimination. Do they just want to be differant? Do they just want to cause contraversy? Maybe they enjoy having homophobic slurs shouted at them from across the road.

Or maybe, they just want to live their lives without someone always looking down on them thinking "well they chose to be gay, they deserve everything they get".

What does it matter if they go home to a man instead a woman. What possible effect does that have on your life.

On another forum I go to, therewas a quote from a gay man and it said:

"Just because a man is gay doesnt mean that he instantly wants to have sex with all straight men".

The impression I get from you is that just because your friend is gay you think he wants to sleep with you. It doesnt work like that. And if thats what you are thinking when you're playing UO, then I'm afraid thats your problem, and if are really his friend, something you'll have to work on.

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Red Squirrel wrote: That's what society tries to force on people that sexual orientation is something you're born with, but it's a decision.
OMG. That is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard anyone say Red. :blink:
Hey, good luck with that theory.



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Red Squirrel wrote: LOL who you go out with IS a decision.  It's like what you eat. You decide what you eat.
That's true.

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Wow, glad to see someone supports me on this. :)

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I guess I'm the only one here that does.

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Reaper wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: LOL who you go out with IS a decision.  It's like what you eat. You decide what you eat.
That's true.
Red, agreeing with this statement is hardly agreeing with what you beileve to be true on the issue.

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But I do.

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Me and my boss went for a ride in his porche, we went to eat out for lunch, was great. Company paid for it and all.

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I had a terrible lunch today. :( Left over pizza.

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Could be worse though, you could be on your way home from college, looking forward to left over pizza left in the fridge, get home, and realize it's not there anymore. I had that happen to me a few months ago. I was pissed off. It was 2:00pm and I did not feel like making something. :D

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Well then. Didn't see that coming.

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Red Squirrel wrote: Could be worse though, you could be on your way home from college, looking forward to left over pizza left in the fridge, get home, and realize it's not there anymore.  I had that happen to me a few months ago.  I was pissed off.  It was 2:00pm and I did not feel like making something. :D
Man I hate that. I eat a lot of pizza, which makes for some left overs occasionally and when I go to eat it and it's not there.....it certainly does piss a person off. That person being ME!!!

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Reaper wrote: I had a terrible lunch today. :( Left over pizza.
Dont diss the pizza.

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