Some call it WW IV

[rovingcowboy]

adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:
The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges,
some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country,
they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups,
often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase
pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.
Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings,
and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace,
because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only words such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred,
and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father;
my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.
-- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim
populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses.

They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus,
Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse.
The wolves will be herding the sheep!

Obama appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn't this make you feel safer already?

Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus, Syria,
as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic,
a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions?
Doesn't this make you feel safer already??

That should make the US' homeland much safer, huh!!
Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?

Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply: Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.
Religiously - no... Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally - no... Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no... Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no... Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews..
Politically - no...Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America,
the great Satan.
Domestically - no... Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually - no... Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no... Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no... Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation....
Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims
and good Americans.

Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country
and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
Can a muslim be a good soldier???

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.

FACTS ARE FACTS ARE FACTS ARE FACTS...



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[Triple6_wild]

I believe this post is offensive...

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[rovingcowboy]

how and to whom?
all it says is the plan they have to take over the world, and states facts that proove it is happening in other countrys.

so how is that upseting to anyone?

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[Triple6_wild]

Not sure how to describe it.. Looks alot like bigotry? Very high possibility it was written by an extremist who skewed all the numbers and exaggerated and or made up the facts without first hand experience. I'm betting if you look up the author he is most likely a hardcore hypocrite type catholic. You know the type that give religion a bad name?

It doesn't appear to prove anything other then it was made to scare Americans. And create hate towards people who come from a Muslim country. Really anyone can make anything look bad by hand picking the worse of any religions, cults, minority's, majority's, races, sexes, etc, etc, If anything your right and it will start a war just because of extremists and bigots on BOTH sides which just creates more hate.

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[rovingcowboy]

well you are so far off base with that line of thought it ain't funny.

the author is real and is an muslim that converted from it after he saw
his so called muslim brothers beat up and kill a forgien exchange student at the campas they were at in his former country. when all the exhcange student did was walk out of the building.
the author then said that was about 20 years ago and he has not looked back. but he is telling us what they are doing as he feels its the right thing to do.
i seen him on a television show several weeks ago ? maybe months? trying to sell his book, and he had body guards with him on the show because the radical muslims are out to k..l him now.

its a terrible thing to be a man with out a country but he has been for 20 years or so now. even though he is welcome in western countrys he can not get anywhere near any muslim country or commuity.
not that he wants too he just can't.

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[Triple6_wild]

I'm not so far off. Lets forget the religion aspects though because it may start a flame war. My original point is that post is a form of bigotry and is offensive.

You yourself said he seen his brothers kill someone. Witnessing a murder has the potential to screw someone up and make them a bigot or extremist.

Bigot
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders and religion or spirituality.

Bigotry
1.stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2.the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

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[rovingcowboy]

so now you call him a bigot for converting FROM muslim to christan because his muslim brothers killed that college student? and he is now trying to tell the western world what the plan of the muslims really is.?

or are you calling me one because i say i'm stubbron and bull headed?

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[Triple6_wild]

Haha What do you mean

so now you call him a bigot

I made it very clear from my first post that it was offensive. You asked how it could be offensive. I gave a clear answer.

I didn't call you a bigot so don't pretend I did. Please don't twist my words.
Also don't skip words when reading. You seem to have missed some in my last post.

The author clearly had a hard life which has the potential to mess up someones head.
I see bigotry the first post.
Clear?

If you don't see it then sorry. My fault for pointing it out.



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[rovingcowboy]

no i don't see it that way in the first post.

i was also not seeing what you were doing with the examples of the word in your other post it looked like what i said when i read it.

but if you go back and read my post then your post and not just your post then i see you were answering my post.


i'll do what my sister always does to me.
and say. "I've slept since then "

but i don't think it messed his way of thinking up? that would imply his converting to being a christian was the result of a messed up mind, and not the result of his seeing how moraly wrong the others where in killing that student for no reason other then he did not look and think like them.

there is right and there is wrong he seen the wrong and went to the right.

but there is also right and wrong in everyone and in every group.
its just there is more right in christian way of living then the muslim.
as in being a christian we are to live well with others of any race. as we are all men and the lord died for all men.





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[Triple6_wild]

No biggie. Just reading your reply I could tell you quickly skimmed over it and interpreted it wrong Considering we can handle this like adults lets continue Just get a nap before re-reading and replying lol The quote in my last post was just a dictionary description of the word "Bigot" just to be clear why I was using it here.

[quote=-></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>
but there is also right and wrong in everyone and in every group.
its just there is more right in christian way of living then the muslim.[/quote]

This type of thought process I can agree with Although it may not be more right entirely due to religion it does hold some truth. It's more due to coming from a more civilized country though. Some people do convert only after going through tough times. That's normal. Regardless of why he converted does not matter if it made his life better. But converting does not change history and cannot change all ways of thinking.

Hes pointing to Muslims as a whole rather then looking at all aspects. If anything culture would play more of a part in it then anything.

If you think about it most of these country's hes listed are many years behind the US and a bunch of school kids in the states years ago would brutally kick the crap out of someone for being different even without religion even being a factor. It could have been an accidental death bullying because you can get away with more violence in that country. Harder to hold back a kick to the head if you know your not gonna be in jail for a violent assault and you'll make more friends doing it. Where as here in Canada/US today you wouldn't see something so violent over something that small anymore. Still have your fight's but not to the same extent.

So think of the US many years ago and read. They beat there wife's? Ya we did too.... Can they continue to beat there wives here? Not any more then any other Canadian/American.
Christian's also used to be very uptight about other non followers and would single them out in a bigot/racist and even violent way. That has changed a lot in just the last 40] there is right and there is wrong he seen the wrong and went to the right.  [/quote]
He may have gone from he thought was wrong to right but went above and beyond so now he is doing the same wrong by trying to get people on this side to fight instead of getting people on that side to fight. Hes still creating the same hate that his brothers had. He clearly is still against "Infidels" only now hes Catholics because he changed sides. Doesn't make it anymore right does it? So what if hes not using his own fist to kill someone. His writing can easily create the believer who kills for him. Only it will be a pure blooded American catholic who ends up killing for this guy not a converted Muslim from another country. One believer fighting at a protest armed with this knowledge is all it takes.

[quote=-></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td> "From first post"
Obama appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn't this make you feel safer already?

Obama and Janet Napolitano appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development.[/quote] Looks terrifying when put that way eh? Thats the light HE want's it seen under. It will sell his book and can potentially start a protest to get the Muslims out if enough people follow. Will the protest be violent if demands are not met? Maybe. If it is then it will be Catholics being violent and not Muslims. Because Catholics are the majority here and will be protesting the Muslims will take the blame if anyone is killed regardless of side if a riot breaks out. Catholics would be the starter though in a case like that.
How much of his stats of "Burning cars" and "Riots" are from the other side that want Muslims out? Easy to point the all the fault at Muslims eh? Hes creating "This Side" to start the fighting. Can't protest or riot with no followers can you.

How about where did these appointed Muslims grow up and how long were they there?
Grew up in 3rd world Afghanistan? Came to the states last year? Ya sure be afraid. Protest that crap. Chance says it's not good.
Grew up in 2nd world Russia? Lived in America for 10] "First post"
Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.[/quote]


It's going to be Hitler all over again if a Catholic that thinks like he does gets in power. Only will be burning Muslims instead of Jews. Not all Germans hated Jews but if you would be harmed for doing so you will pretend you do and your religious beliefs have nothing to do with it... It won't go that far in this day and age but it will still be the same. You need to step back and look at it from a neutral point. There are Shinto shrines in Canada/America (Washington haha) but no one is protesting them as loudly. It's only natural that Muslims would also want accommodations for there religion also so why expect otherwise? There is nothing wrong with wanting "Clean food" if that's what your religion calls for. It's the same as wanting a church/shrine in another country. His writing is bigotry. He may have been one before converting or started after but ether way it is clearly in there.
It's all fear created from 9/11.

but i don't think it messed his way of thinking up? that would imply his converting to being a christian was the result of a messed up mind, and not the result of his seeing how moraly wrong the others where in killing that student for no reason other then he did not look and think like them.

His book is asking you to hate those who do not think like him... Hes taking advantage of 9/11 with this book. Is he a good Catholic for doing this?

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