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I've been working on a new machine for a bit, I think I'm finally done. Lemme know what you think.

MB: ASUS 865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU
Cost: $130

CPU: Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512KB Cache, Hyper Threading Technology
Cost: $230

RAM: Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Cost: $273

CD1: LITE-ON BLACK 16X DVD ROM Drive
Cost: $36

CD2: Lite-On Black 52X32X52 CD-RW Drive
Cost: $37

Video: SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 256MB DDRII, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP
Cost: $315

Sound Card: Turtle Beach 6-Channel PCI Sound Card, Model "Santa Cruz"
Cost: $49

Case w/ Power Supply: Chieftec Black Server Case with 450W Power Supply
Cost: $95

HD: Seagate 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive
Cost: $96

Speakers: Logitech Z640 5.1 Speakers
Cost: $65

Keyboard: Logitech Elite Keyboard USB/PS2 104keys
Cost: $35

Floppy: SAMSUNG SFD321B/LBL1 Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive
Cost: $9

Extra Cooling: CoolerMaster Blue 80mm Neon LED Fan
Cost: $18 (getting 2 for $9 each, front case fans)

Optional Extra Cooling: Speeze 80mm DC Case fan
Cost: $4 (getting 2 for $2 each, backup plan if they run out of the CoolerMaster =P)

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack SP1a - Full Version OEM
Cost: $138


TOTAL SYSTEM COST: $1526

If there's any suggestions lemme know,

Thanks again,
-SpydeR :warezrulez:

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you forgot the ata card from promise.

you'll need that when you want to add more hard drives :D



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Looks good to me! Should do pretty good. You could probably save money if you went with AMD though. :)

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do not buy it now AGP will be gone in a year or two thats not very promising wait til PCI Express mobo come out ytou will thank yourself.

Also the turtle beach card is nice but a SB card is far better

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AGP will be gone? Is that why I can't find mobos that support 3.3 volt AGP? All the mobos I see on my supplier only support 1.3 volts, even the good motherboards. For my server I have to buy a PCI card because no video card in the market can be handled by the motherboards. They are all 3.3 volts now.

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If memory serves me the higher voltage was killed after AGP 2x, 4x droped it to 1.5 volts due to the heat created at higher voltages.

Thus if you find an old AGP 2x card it will be 3.3 volts but there isnt any new 2x cards being made.

Red look into A Via EPIA system they fast and pimp, plus most are fanless ot require small fans. Not to mention tiny. Check it out

All you have to add is case ram and hard drive.

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So 3.3v is old? I thought the newer cards such as the 64MB and up ones required 3.3 volts because 1.3 was not enough. What I find funny is that my Radeon 7500 64MB card fitted in the very old P2 board, but it also fits in my fairly new AMD board, so I figured they were both 1.3 volt, and that the newer boards were 3.3 since the slot is different. I can't seem to find a fairly priced agp card that will fit in this slot. Most cards my supplier have under $100 are 3.3. I don't want to pay over $100 for a server video card. :D But I found a PCI one so that will get the job done. I'll be telnetting or VNCing my way to the server most of the time anyway. I'll only use the video card for installation and troubleshooting, if I get problems.

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Red volts are push watt are the consumed. So when shirnk the core of a chip less voltage it required hence why newer card require less voltage. Now the more fratures as in RAM and other stuff burns the watts hence why some AGP card have a molex connecter on them now days.

When the Prescott goes to the LGA 775 socket the voltage required will be 1.2 volts (rumors on tech sites) but sence socket 478 isnt designed for the power distrubtion its has to run higher (1.475 volts) voltage making it run hotter (ever layer foil over a volt battery?) hence why some of the chip has been disabled: it would fry itself. When the voltage drops heat will be reduced and Intel can enable it.

See voltage goes down over time wattage goes up.


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I always thought high voltage : low amps = less heat, and low voltage : high amps = more heat. When you short circuit a battery, the voltage stays the same, but the amps go very high.

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AMPS= WATTS÷VOLTS A = W ÷ V
WATTS= VOLTS x AMPS W = V x A
VOLTS= WATTS ÷ AMPS V = W ÷ A

Okay like for precott 110 watts divided by 1.2 volts equals 90 amps

so you were right 90 apms for a processor is a lot huh Red one.

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I think the way it works is that it only uses what it needs, so even though the processor can use 90 amps and has it available from the power source, it probably never goes near it, otherwise current inside a computer would be deadly. So I think that's where heat comes in, the percentage of used amps is lower, there is less heat. So if it's using 0.1 amps and there's 90 available, it's less hard on the circuit as if it would e using 0.1 and only have 1 available.

That's what I assume anyway... I would not consider myself an expert in electricity. I can install a light switch or solder wires in my computer but that's about it. :D

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Good price on the CPU, didn't know they had dropped in price that much. IMO, you can't beat a Pentium for running cool and quiet. :awesome:

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I'd much rather use an AMD Processor than Intel. They're much cheaper, and just as fast, if not faster.

The only thing that sux is the fact they haven't gotten past 400mhz FSB. If they did, then Intel would have alot more competition.

You can't beat AMD when it comes to price and performance.

For the OS, get Windows 2000. It's alot better than XP, and since it's on SP4, it's alot more stable. It also doesn't need to be activated.

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Yep win2k R0X0R. I've been using it for more then a year with no problems. Only clean installed about 3 times and twice was because of carelessness (virus) and once was because of some odd problem (monitor was turned off in video settings, could not see anything).

I used to clean install win98 about twice a week when I used it. Definatly not for power users. It would probably be the same with XP if I used that. From the little experience I have with XP, it's very easy to screw it up. :D

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I dont know $230 for a 3.0Ghz P4 is hella cheap A barton AXP 3000+ is only $20 less at newegg. That and the socket A line is dead when socket 478 will go to 3.6Ghz P4's

The only thing I would do differently is going with with an Abit IC7 Max 3. Its the best board and you never need to worry about drives it supports 6 SATA HDD's out of the box plus 4 IDE drives. for the SATA you want you can have 2 is RAID 0/1 and 4 in 0/1/0+1 if you want! Plus it comes with 6 channel audio on board.

Abit IC7 Max 3

XP Pro is the newest verions of 2000 but enables gaming.

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