No more skill deeds?

havohej · Post by **havohej** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:33 pm

I noticed new characters dont have skill deeds anymore... This is going to deter new members from joining for sure and even current members who dont want to waste all their time needlessly macroing since about every skill can be macroed anyways... please bring back the skill deeds so this shard can grow! I know most everyone will agree with this

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:48 pm

They were simply put as a boost, but as they are now available through donations, I wanted to remove the free ones. If you have tons of gold, you can also buy some at the specialty dealer.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:02 pm

I say I don't think anyone will pay for Skill Deeds. But, that's just me. I'd rather be buying an ethy.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:47 pm

yeah that vendor is for people with rediculous amounts of gold and if they start a new char its a quick way out.

Same with the lrc suit, I'm sure a better suit can be made cheaper, though the one you buy from that vendor is blessed.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:47 am

Honestly, skill deeds make stuff easier then it already is. You can finish skills and stats in a character in a single day already, no need for the deeds really. You can also get them from the roulette, just camp for tots or something and keep trying. You will eventually get a +25.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:05 am

perhaps the bag of random skill deeds could be remade to 500 skill deed points or something like that. And maybe make it 500k or something halfway affordable. A resourceful player can make 500 skill points go a long ways, only using them for hard skills like poisoning, taming, the last 40pts of ninja, etc.

Right now I am set on skill deeds, at least for the next few characters I might make. But in the future it would be nice to have them available for a decent price if I decide to switch a template around.

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E.Machine · Post by **E.Machine** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:01 am

You know what though, Its not like skill gain on this shard is very difficult anyways. You all see how fast the skills go up. You won't even ahve to macro all that much anyways. Unless the skill gain system was changed too....

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:58 pm

The skill gain speed has not been changed and no plan to change it.

The deeds are meant to be hard enough to get anyway as they are donation items.

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lancefer · Post by **lancefer** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:45 pm

Leave the stat scrolls, it keeps the macroers out of Luna, keeping bandwith to a minimum, makes everyones life more interesting as I can start real gameplay without having to waste time gaining skills. If you took them out because of the roulette table, take the skill gains out of roulette. I love the chance to get an HRSK, and the POT's, POFs, BOS's, checks for whatever amount are a nice trade in for a lesser. I know some people macro getting lessers and thats fine, but I work hard for them, and hate getting 3 or 4 "YOU LOSE" after a couple spawns. So if you leave in the power scrolls, we should never lose - getting a power scroll, or a bag of reagents would be losing as they certainly arent worth a lesser, I'd like to see those removed.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:01 pm

haha those lesser prizes are sort of like loosing, it is gambling afterall

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:05 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:haha those lesser prizes are sort of like loosing, it is gambling afterall

Would have to agree. Not everyone will choose to champion spawn so that will be a way for the other guys to get some powerscrolls instead of them purchasing them at player vendors. The reg bags can also be nice because they can carry a lot of regs sometimes and some people are lazy and don't want to go and buy regs all day (Mind you, black did shoot the stock amount way up so it's not as bad).

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:33 pm

And if you get a bag of sending theres a 10% chance that it's blessed.

That would be a nice item actually, I've lost count of how many of those I've lost in fel.

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Nosferatu · Post by **Nosferatu** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:37 am

blessed? i love you.

i should have kept my mill check cuz i forgot it said

"1 mill cehck won from roullette"

now i cashed it ill never have that title again hehe.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:And if you get a bag of sending theres a 10% chance that it's blessed. That would be a nice item actually, I've lost count of how many of those I've lost in fel.

I've lost track of how many I've picked up in fel. Like that guy that had 5 of em on him.

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lancefer · Post by **lancefer** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:34 pm

10% chance huh?? tell that to the 21 bags of sending I got, and the 11 my wife got. None are blessed. That WOULD be like getting a greater artie, but I don't think it's adding up percentage wise. That's 32 BOS between the two of us, and not 1 blessed!

After turning in nearly 400 lessers, you can see what greaters I got on my tables at home. 14 of them I already had before the roulette, which leaves 11 greaters...seems more like a 1 out of 30 or 40 to me. Certainly not 1 out of 10.

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lancefer · Post by **lancefer** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:36 pm

And before you say "That's why they call it gambling"...when you give the odds and they are that far off...I call it cheating your customers.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:28 pm

http://www.uovalor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2754#2754

Code: Select all

            case 0:
            winitem = new BagOfSending();
            if(Utility.Random(10)==5)winitem.LootType=LootType.Blessed;
            winitem.Name="Bag of Sending";
            break;

Keep in mind the nested Randomiser in the switch, that means there is a bigger chance of getting a small number then a large number, as it's basically randomizing a number from 1 to a randomized number from 1 to 10. So if the first random is 5 then the second cannot be more then 5.

So bag of sending is the most likely thing to get. In average, you will get 1 greater per 10 lessers.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:35 pm

Lance, thats still a LOT more greater AoAs than most people have. Your luck would be more consistant with american roulette, which is 1 to 37.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:40 pm

From what I heard theres some people who have left there with like 5 greaters. I was expecting this flood however since I knew everyone was stashing them but now there's more then enough on the server to go around, and more will also come. I mean, you could get real lucky, get lolo's lute and gamble it and get a greater AoA. It can happen.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:21 pm

Take into consideration one thing though, if you rool a dice, you wont always get one number out of 6. You have chances of getting multiples, or not getting it at all. Its not determined. The chance is 10%, but lets say you got unlucky and kept getting 11-100% in the roulette. Happens.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:24 pm

yeah its basically like getting an arty drop off leviathan. You have 1 in 4 chance but Ive done like 5 in a row without getting anything.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:32 pm

Or the most retarded roll ever:
I threw an insured "The Barrier" and got an uninsured "The Barrier". rofl

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:37 pm

LOL thats a jarr. Kind of makes you wonder if something is telling you to just keep it.

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E.Machine · Post by **E.Machine** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:17 pm

I gambled 14 lesser aoa's, 9 lesser tots today, and I got ONE bag of sending....

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:31 pm

I got like 5 greater AoAs in a row a few days ago with a doom arty, then finally got a bag of sending. Was on my admin though so did not count, too bad I can't get that luck on my regular char.

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