Gold sink / Doom event idea

ggkthx · Post by **ggkthx** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:22 pm

Obviously the free Doom trip was popular, which gave me an idea.

What if (or some variant of the following):
Players were able to contribute gold, (or maybe even items if there was a point system based on item quality?) to some sort of 'Doom donation box'

Then, when the gold total, point total, whatever, was reached a free trip to Doom gate would be opened and would last for some amount of time, 24, 48, 72 hours etc.

Would allow players an alternative to the 'traditional' way of going to Doom, could act as a gold sink with rich players being able to pop the Doom event almost whenever and allowing new/poor players to tag along to Doom easily and cheaply/free, a place they might not otherwise go to.

A lot of variant options on the basic idea are possible, could be an NPC 'quest' event even, possibly even being asked to collect some specific resources for the npc to open his portal to Doom. (Though if you were all about farming resources why not go to Doom the standard way?)

This system could be adapted to other event systems, not just Doom, but Doom was what made me think of it.

Anyway, *seemed* easy enough to implement, but what do I know?

I got feedback on this idea from a few people, all of whom encouraged me to come post it on the forums and see if it would be something you guys would like/implement.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:30 pm

i think this is a great and simple idea and would be very useful for the shard since its a gold sink and making us more popular

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:36 pm

ggkthx wrote:Obviously the free Doom trip was popular, which gave me an idea.

What if (or some variant of the following):
Players were able to contribute gold, (or maybe even items if there was a point system based on item quality?) to some sort of 'Doom donation box'

Then, when the gold total, point total, whatever, was reached a free trip to Doom gate would be opened and would last for some amount of time, 24, 48, 72 hours etc.

Would allow players an alternative to the 'traditional' way of going to Doom, could act as a gold sink with rich players being able to pop the Doom event almost whenever and allowing new/poor players to tag along to Doom easily and cheaply/free, a place they might not otherwise go to.

A lot of variant options on the basic idea are possible, could be an NPC 'quest' event even, possibly even being asked to collect some specific resources for the npc to open his portal to Doom. (Though if you were all about farming resources why not go to Doom the standard way?)

This system could be adapted to other event systems, not just Doom, but Doom was what made me think of it.

Anyway, *seemed* easy enough to implement, but what do I know?
I got feedback on this idea from a few people, all of whom encouraged me to come post it on the forums and see if it would be something you guys would like/implement.

Sounds like a nice idea but it would have to be exceptionally expensive as the main medium to enter doom should be via victoria's quest to gather demon bones. I'm not entirely against the idea but it would have to require enough gold as to not overshadow the existing quest.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:37 pm

yeh i said like 5m and some items

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:42 pm

Redrum lot- wrote:yeh i said like 5m and some items

Could work, we'd have to see. We could incorporate it into some kind of aov collection system to force launching of certain events. Interesting plan and yes, would be a nice gold sink.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:43 pm

yeh you could make a random request list based on that list it would say how long the gate stays up you could make it ask for resources/artys anything really

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onykage · Post by **onykage** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:09 pm

cost should be at minimum 10mil. The doom quest is simple and doesnt take very long. So if you wanted to bypass the quest that gives access to doom, then you are just lazy, and it should cost you.

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ggkthx · Post by **ggkthx** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:22 pm

If you're lazy you're not going to blow 10 mil like that.
It's not meant to be 1 player paying for it anyway.
It *could* be, but it's designed to be a collaborative effort to open doom up temporarily for everyone.
You're missing the point by just saying a person should have to be punished for their laziness.

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d. · Post by d. » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:24 pm

Interesting idea however it will not work. The rich people with mass gold most likely have all the arties they need, so no need to pay for a free gaunt trip. The newer players who need arts may save up gold and spend it trying to get arts. With all the newer players spending gold on gaunt trips, it makes the mass gold the vets have even more valuable, thus not really helping out people as intended.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:00 pm

well maybe gaunt can be added on to to add more harder monsters and artys?

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d. · Post by d. » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:14 pm

Redrum lot- wrote:well maybe gaunt can be added on to to add more harder monsters and artys?

gauntlet will stay how it is, though they have been working on the custom quest systems. I don't know if you have tried them redrum, but they are pretty fun. You can find runes for them in the gold books at the gate library. I recommend the Orc quest for some fun. Unfortunately, with the slow spawn rates the quests take upwards of 45 minutes (longer than a solo spawn) and only pan out a few thousand gold and random junk mod items. Provided the quests become more complex, and the rewards more actually reflect the time/effort you have to put in to doing them, the shard will have lots of new PvM things to do.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:59 pm

meh i dont do the whole quest things if i did id play wow =P

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geezushhchrist · Post by **geezushhchrist** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:32 pm

i wish red would make a custom dungeon thats like gaunt(drops gaunt arties) with the monsters being like a fey a reptile a demon a undead a repond and the boss has no slayer

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:50 pm

geezushhchrist wrote:i wish red would make a custom dungeon thats like gaunt(drops gaunt arties) with the monsters being like a fey a reptile a demon a undead a repond and the boss has no slayer

Demitel bosses are the closest thing to what you are suggesting.

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Nexus Graveheart · Post by **Nexus Graveheart** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:58 pm

You could forgo the gold cost and have the system ask for artifacts. We all know that within each artifact class, the "useless" ones outnumber the good ones. This system could be like the roulette system. If a player nabs an artifact that he doesn't want, he could donate it to this system to help spawn the free gate to the Gauntlet.

This could help lower item count. As it is now, some players don't use the roulette, probably because they are either pack-rats or have something against gambling. This would merely provide another outlet for those players who amass large amounts of artifacts and never do anything with them.

I like this idea though, regardless of my hatred for the Gauntlet.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:07 pm

yeh this is good for multiple ideas like i said i think it should be a combo of gold/items/resources

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:17 pm

I like where this is going. Neat idea and could be expanded to various systems not just gaunt. Personally I would not do it for gaunt but maybe for demitels. Rather then have them free spawn, they need to be a community based process to spawn them.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:17 pm

Redrum lot- wrote:yeh this is good for multiple ideas like i said i think it should be a combo of gold/items/resources

This pretty much sums up the osi collection systems such as the library, zoo and museum. We will be including the standard OSI ones but might also have a custom AOV one that accepts artifacts + extra as donations for shard wide events.

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Mika · Post by **Mika** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:15 am

As far as donating arties for free doom trips, why not add a roulette reward such as a free ticket to hell... err I mean Doom, when ticket was used it would take ur party to do just as you had turned in a skull. The event was a nice suprise but not something I would like to see every day. For the people who do doom much at all, all the noobs running around really made it harder than it needed to be while contributing next to nothing. Things such as dragging all 4 DFs at once or summoning EVs on DF etc, only made it take longer and made them die more. When they cant even kill the sidespawn let alone hurt a boss in Doom, they arent really contributing much, especially when they have (young) by their name and do nuthing but run an autolooter to nab anything of value (not that I loot doom bosses much) but some people who worked hard to kill it like to. I know a lot of us are going to be spending a LOT of time in Doom in the next few months due to the revamp etc, and many of us can solo it fairly easily, but to have you plus 6 noobs he get there with 0 effort and do nuthing but make it more difficult in Doom constantly is nothing more than a boon. If noobs want to go to gauntlet so bad, I know many people would gladly take a few if they worked to get the bones for them. Seriously, getting the bones is not that hard, if that cant handle the bone deamon room, there are other places to get the bones, which if they cant handle that they really have no place being in doom yet and should blow that insurance money they would lose there on a few pieces of gear since they wouldnt even be able to kill DF sidespawn. If they came up with the bones or a ticket if it was implemented into the roullette etc, Im sure some vets would gladly take them for not having to hassle to go get bones. Just my 2 cents.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:45 am

lol 4 DFs, reminds me of demise, pure chaos. People used to do that all the time. Oh how I almost miss doing gaunt on Demise, when all of EVP was still active...

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:49 am

lol DF on here hate me they cast 1-3 rev's on me

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:12 am

Red Squirrel wrote:I like where this is going. Neat idea and could be expanded to various systems not just gaunt. Personally I would not do it for gaunt but maybe for demitels. Rather then have them free spawn, they need to be a community based process to spawn them.

I seriously loved this idea.

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Kwan · Post by **Kwan** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:53 pm

geezushhchrist wrote:i wish red would make a custom dungeon thats like gaunt(drops gaunt arties) with the monsters being like a fey a reptile a demon a undead a repond and the boss has no slayer

I have always had an idea for a new doom/gauntlet but instead in the dungen there are crystal skeletal dragons, crystal skeletens and such like that.

Then for the Quest you would need to get say 5000 Crystal Deamon Bones

Kill the Crystal Bone Deamon.

Then get a Crystal Skull. That leads you to a smaller gauntlet say with 3 rooms instead of 5.

I'm thinking that the artys that it drop should be someware inbetween arties and marties like a middle artie.

Basicly the idea of this some kind of crystal exploaded in doom and opened up a new portal in to this dungen. it also caused some of the inhabetents of doom to get some kind of crystal stuck in there head witch made them turn in to crystal.

The other thing I was thinking was inorder to get to this new dungin the enterance should be placed in gauntlet and have some kind of quest in gaunt maybe make them have a rare chance to drop the key you need. in order to get in

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Kwan · Post by **Kwan** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:57 pm

Yo Red i got those scans for you then

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