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Post by Mosin »

love it? hate it? i personnally think two britanias is stupid and tram should be removed. opinions?

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I see your point and have even thought of removing it but it would really not serve any purpose to do so, and for the sake of UO lore and memory sakes rather leave it there. Like its sometimes fun as a new player to wander around in trammel as it brings back some UO memories, or for the case of new to UO players, its a place to get to know fel a bit without being in fel. That may even be the intention behind why OSI made them mirrors.

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I'd be down for nuking trammel. in a heartbeat.

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Post by Leviathan »

You'll have a hard time keeping new players on the shard if you force them into fellucca with so many vets dripping in artifact gear.

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Mosin wrote:love it? hate it? i personnally think two britanias is stupid and tram should be removed. opinions?
I love it because it represents the old days of UO when only trammel existed as Britannia. When more facets were introduced, trammel went the way of the dodo like a bunch of Ultima's lore and heart (Old reagents like brimstone and dragon blood, etc etc). Things aren't like they used to be that's for sure. It was a simpler time of ultima and it's a shame that further advancements in the game have overshadowed key elements like putting forensic evaluation or taste ID on a template.

Do not despair however! In the world of AOV, everything has a purpose. Skills that were dead will eventually make revivals and be reborn into modern day ultima. Trammel will also be given a large facelift with the quest system, where many many quests will be located exclusively to trammel.

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Post by Mosin »

you have reminded me of the old days :/ what if we nuked fel? and then made tram pvp worthy?

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I would personally like to make the whole shard seige style, pvp everywhere, no insurance, or some form of insurance but harder to get (like insure deeds that you must earn or something, after so many deaths the insure expires).

But that's just me. Not everyone plays for pvp, and it sucks being new and trying to get stuff when you can get pked, so I prefer leaving things as is.

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Red Squirrel wrote:I would personally like to make the whole shard seige style, pvp everywhere, no insurance, or some form of insurance but harder to get (like insure deeds that you must earn or something, after so many deaths the insure expires).

But that's just me. Not everyone plays for pvp, and it sucks being new and trying to get stuff when you can get pked, so I prefer leaving things as is.
Seige would be fun. That's kinda how the factions are going to work, cept they have insurance. Best not to break that apart as players play the game for different reasons. Some like PVM, some like PVP, some like crafting, etc etc.

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Post by Mosin »

i dunno, i prefer fel only but tram looks so much nicer. i just dont see the point in tram anymore :/ or at least i dont see the point in a mirror of britania. is there any way we could get down to only 1 britania?

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Mosin wrote:i dunno, i prefer fel only but tram looks so much nicer. i just dont see the point in tram anymore :/ or at least i dont see the point in a mirror of britania. is there any way we could get down to only 1 britania?
Technically, we could but people have houses there and such.

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Post by DOCTOR THUNDER »

why do you dislike trammel? I just realized this last weekend, they even have flowers in the dungeons for you.

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Post by Red Squirrel »

Technically if we wanted we could mirror malas and make a fel of it, I have to try that one day just to see if it will work. Only thing is all the deco related items would have to be recreated.

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Seer Death wrote:
Mosin wrote:i dunno, i prefer fel only but tram looks so much nicer. i just dont see the point in tram anymore :/ or at least i dont see the point in a mirror of britania. is there any way we could get down to only 1 britania?
Technically, we could but people have houses there and such.
Yeah... fuck it nuke Fel and make trammie land respectable again.

Just think of it.... champs would then have to offer aoa's AND 10th anny arties. People would never leave Trammel. Ever.



This just made me think of something... what if you guys made Demitels give ML, AoA, 10th anny arty, Gaunt and Paragon chances as well as their normal bonuses?

THAT WOULD BE SO BADASS.

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jrhather wrote:
Seer Death wrote:
Mosin wrote:i dunno, i prefer fel only but tram looks so much nicer. i just dont see the point in tram anymore :/ or at least i dont see the point in a mirror of britania. is there any way we could get down to only 1 britania?
Technically, we could but people have houses there and such.
Yeah... fuck it nuke Fel and make trammie land respectable again.

Just think of it.... champs would then have to offer aoa's AND 10th anny arties. People would never leave Trammel. Ever.



This just made me think of something... what if you guys made Demitels give ML, AoA, 10th anny arty, Gaunt and Paragon chances as well as their normal bonuses?

THAT WOULD BE SO BADASS.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.....

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Post by Mosin »

im afraid your acting stupid in vain. you missed my point. what i want is trammel looks (trees that dont look shitty, etc) but the ability to pvp there. more or less combining the two into one. So i guess trying to answer my question with a thought or two may actually prove more useful than interpreting it as a plea to make AoV carebaer, just so you can inadvertently brag about your GM sarcasm. :roll:

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Seer Death wrote:
jrhather wrote:
Seer Death wrote:
Technically, we could but people have houses there and such.
Yeah... fuck it nuke Fel and make trammie land respectable again.

Just think of it.... champs would then have to offer aoa's AND 10th anny arties. People would never leave Trammel. Ever.



This just made me think of something... what if you guys made Demitels give ML, AoA, 10th anny arty, Gaunt and Paragon chances as well as their normal bonuses?

THAT WOULD BE SO BADASS.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.....
Whatever you want to hear.

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Post by Red Squirrel »

I can make demitels drop all arties arties, but the chance will be 1/(infinity+1) chance.

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Post by Kenji »

Ive always liked this idea, but thats my opinion as a pvper. I know tho, alot of people arent into pvp and would like to just pvm, and it would be wrong in my opinion to force pvp apon someone

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Kenji wrote:Ive always liked this idea, but thats my opinion as a pvper. I know tho, alot of people arent into pvp and would like to just pvm, and it would be wrong in my opinion to force pvp apon someone
If this were ever to go into place, there would be some kind of protection time or possibly a contract for protection. Basically, your young status would be longer to give you enough time to train up.

There would possibly be some kind of protection you could get your character if you realllly did not want to pvp (But you would lose out on some things like being able to attack other players or something).

As mentioned earlier, not everyone likes to pvp so forcing it on players is not always a good idea. That's part of the reason I like the faction idea. You can choose to create a siege type world for yourself (Where it's PVP everywhere) once you've gained enough skill and knowledge to actually PVP.

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