Just incase I get banned or something...

jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:13 pm

Stupid Demise. Bah.

I posted this in a thread on Demise. I have a feeling it'll get modded by good ole' fascist Caine.

I wouldn't cry if Demise was shut down and we all had to move to Divinity or whatever.

I liked Demise when I thought it was going to be an ML(osi) clone. I like quests and doing library collections and being part of a guild traversing a dungeon... but the guilds here don't bother with that, or they're all 'badass' pvp guilds. I don't play UO for pvp, I play Unreal or Halo or CS for pvp.

I'm sick of OLD SKOOL OSI bs like Divinity/Hybrid. I want swoops and peerless and shiny items and shit 'cause frankly I've spent years wandering around with a halberd or a katana and some exceptional armor. I want more now and I'm not getting it here. In the year I've been playing here I've done my pvm time with everything, I've gotten bored crafting, hunting, collecting. All thats left is my guild (they've all moved to other shards) and pvp (what a joke that is here)
I've donated a shitload of cash here, $250 - 300+, and while I understand that its a donation and I get no 'reward' other than the skillballs w/e I 'bought', I'm still pissed that after all the money spent by ALL of us, there has been little to no progress on ANYTHING on Demise.

Oddly enough, the other shard I'm on... I donate and I actually get a personal 'thank you' from admin. As a player, that means a lot to me. As does the fact that I can hash things out with the staff when an issue arises.

Without staff support, without things working as they are supposed to, UO is just stale. There are hundreds of shards out there where staff ignore and berate players, where devs do shoddy scripting or none at all like here. I've found one thats not like that, lightsabers or not, and I plan on sticking with it. Why? Because I have fun there... and isn't that what playing a video game is about?

Just wanted ya'll to read this.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:21 pm

Nice, very heartfelt. Sad part is, it's true about demise devs. Even though you have such a large playerbase does not mean you should go around and leave your players in the dark.

As a dev and seer, there's no excuse for them to not inform players of their advancements, plans and what they're working on. Players keep wondering "Are they even working on it or are they just saying they are to shut us up?" It could be as simple as a monthly post for goodness sakes! Think the shard's been going down the tubes and all the devs are bored and really don't want to code ML (Or are busy IRL). They're leading their players on.

I posted this in a thread on Demise. I have a feeling it'll get modded by good ole' fascist Caine.

Nice to see one of them is actually doing his job

. In fact, the only progress I think they do is on that forum (Let's see, 4 templates within a year, looolz). Mind you, the moderators seem to be rather quick these days. Speaking of forum templates, I think we're due for a new one!

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Apple Puff · Post by **Apple Puff** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:27 pm

hey divinity is a fun Rp Server

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:30 pm

I hate Divinity. TOOO MANY shittalkers. The whole UO pvp scene bores the hell outta me. This is the only game I've played where its less about skill and more about ego and epeen.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:34 pm

I think you banned yourself with the lightsaber comment.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:43 pm

LOL nice!

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:51 pm

dprantl wrote:I think you banned yourself with the lightsaber comment.

Who cares?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:51 pm

I love how we're known as the "light sabre" shard, that's less than 0.001% of the shard right there and people rarely even use those. I swear, people must have logged in and tried to find the first thing they didn't like.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:23 pm

I find that amusing too.

I also found the comments amusing about "most shards are not scripted well enough to handle lot of players" they're assuming we could not handle a lot. Heck I did more optimization fixes to the core then they did, hence why we don't get any local software lag, and they do.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:27 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:I find that amusing too.

I also found the comments amusing about "most shards are not scripted well enough to handle lot of players" they're assuming we could not handle a lot. Heck I did more optimization fixes to the core then they did, hence why we don't get any local software lag, and they do.

Still, imagine if the shard was sql driven. That thing would zoom.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:30 pm

Damn, I so wanna do that. no world saves FTW. People at RunUO say its impossible to go mysql without it being unreliable. I want to challenge that. Will need more ram (like 4 gigs at least) but other then that it would go well.

Though this would be a HUGE project, but something for the future. When saves start hitting +10 secs then I'll be thinking about it more

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:40 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:Damn, I so wanna do that. no world saves FTW. People at RunUO say its impossible to go mysql without it being unreliable. I want to challenge that. Will need more ram (like 4 gigs at least) but other then that it would go well.

Though this would be a HUGE project, but something for the future. When saves start hitting +10 secs then I'll be thinking about it more

Max I've seen is 7.3 seconds. Average seems to be around 5 these days.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:54 pm

yeah we got a nice way to go. We'd basically have to double the amount of items, in fact, more, as we did have like nearly 2 mil items at some point due to the cusidhe bandage bug which I fixed and then cleaned up the "lost" bandages and there was hardly any dent in saves.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:57 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:yeah we got a nice way to go. We'd basically have to double the amount of items, in fact, more, as we did have like nearly 2 mil items at some point due to the cusidhe bandage bug which I fixed and then cleaned up the "lost" bandages and there was hardly any dent in saves.

I can provide that with CTF statics

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:59 pm

[tile static 1234 *runs 40 screens away*

38485 items generation complete.

followed by all this in same chunk:

the world will save in 5 seconds
the world is saving please wait...
world save completed in 38948 seconds
you have lost a lot of honor
you have lost a lot of valor
you have lost a lot of justice
server wars will begin shortly

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:00 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:[tile static 1234 *runs 40 screens away*

38485 items generation complete.

followed by all this in same chunk:

the world will save in 5 seconds
the world is saving please wait...
world save completed in 38948 seconds
you have lost a lot of honor
you have lost a lot of valor
you have lost a lot of justice
server wars will begin shortly

You forgot *connection lost*

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:42 pm

it got lich lorded. LOL

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:44 pm

jrhather wrote:it got lich lorded. LOL

Ya, I knew that last post would spark it.

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geezushhchrist · Post by **geezushhchrist** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:11 pm

today idk why i experienced a 23.5 sec save i was wtf has demise hacked this shard

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:16 pm

geezushhchrist wrote:today idk why i experienced a 23.5 sec save i was wtf has demise hacked this shard

Hah, no. Saves like that are rare. Could be numerous factors that cause that from lag while saving or other maintenance or red uploading scripts/tiling mobiles and such.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:24 pm

I was running a backup script from work on the web/email side of things, probably why.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:27 pm

jrhather wrote:it got lich lorded. LOL

You also got banzorred

. You've been promoted to ancient lich.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:33 pm

LOL you gota post the ban message, they seem to be getting better and better.

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Caine · Post by **Caine** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:19 pm

[I had no intention of banning you but since you seem to really want it, take a few days off. If you truly enjoy UO Valor then have a good time.]

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:25 pm

geezushhchrist wrote:today idk why i experienced a 23.5 sec save i was wtf has demise hacked this shard

Speaking of people attacking the server, you should see my postfix log. WTF people, I DO NOT HAVE OPEN RELAY, STOP TRYING! Chances are the people who are doing that don't speak english so I'm talking to a wall here, but damn, they don't ever give up LOL.

Server shot up to 1GB/day since I moved over Email and DNS to it. Soon I will be moving web, just need to play more with stuff like mysql permissions, phpsuexec etc...

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