NEWS, Can it be trusted?

monss · Post by **monss** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:48 am

so would anyone say they trust what they here on the news both close to you and from big networks such as ABC, FOX NEW, OR CNN? Because I'm not sure anymore!

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000 · Post by **000** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:55 am

monss wrote: so would anyone say they trust what they here on the news both close to you and from big networks such as ABC, FOX NEW, OR CNN? Because I'm not sure anymore!

It's not news anymore.......it's entertainment.

The answer is no. My opinion.

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monss · Post by **monss** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:15 pm

your right so what can be done about it?

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:22 pm

The only news channel I trust is Sky. They are always fair and a hell of a lot better than Fox and CNN and the like.

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monss · Post by **monss** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:26 pm

ya well never heard of them but if you say so. But I thought the news supposed to tell you the truth??

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:22 pm

Cicero wrote: The only news channel I trust is Sky. They are always fair and a hell of a lot better than Fox and CNN and the like.

Erm... Sky is owned by the same guys that do Fox News...

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:35 pm

sintekk wrote:
Cicero wrote: The only news channel I trust is Sky. They are always fair and a hell of a lot better than Fox and CNN and the like.

Erm... Sky is owned by the same guys that do Fox News...

But they seem to avoid all the bias that seems to be lumped on American news providers. They are always neutral, and from what I saw in their coverage on the Nov elections, didnt lean towards Bush or Kerry.

EDIT: Is Fox owned by Murdoch aswell?

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:39 pm

Cicero wrote:
sintekk wrote:
Cicero wrote: The only news channel I trust is Sky. They are always fair and a hell of a lot better than Fox and CNN and the like.

Erm... Sky is owned by the same guys that do Fox News...

But they seem to avoid all the bias that seems to be lumped on American news providers. They are always neutral, and from what I saw in their coverage on the Nov elections, didnt lean towards Bush or Kerry.

EDIT: Is Fox owned by Murdoch aswell?

Yes, Fox is part of The News Corp.

As for Sky, I've never seen it, but I imagine it's easy for them to be neutral towards American affairs, but I bet they have some sort of slant when it comes to European matters.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:39 pm

Never trust anything without knowing why it is that way, always have several sources for things you believe. It's really not hard to read past mainstream bias in the media.

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:42 pm

sintekk wrote:
As for Sky, I've never seen it, but I imagine it's easy for them to be neutral towards American affairs, but I bet they have some sort of slant when it comes to European matters.

I dont think it is though. Right now there is alot of talk about the upcoming UK elections and all partys have gotten equal say. And any bias that may be portrayed on the UK version, will be gotten rid of on the Irish version (which is only on for a couple of hours a day).

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:49 pm

Equal say doesn't equal a lack of bias, how they gear the thoughts of the viewers does. Not that I know about Sky.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:33 pm

Before, I would say yes. Because I would expect a large news company to be serious and honest and not fool around with what it tells us.

Unforunatly, I was way wrong in my thinking, especially after hearing that sadam's capture was not even real. It was just a made up story. They did catch him, it just did not happen the way they said.

Not really a big issue but it still shows that they manupulate stuff, and I totally lost my trust in news after hearing of this, (and other small incidents).

I'm sure there's plenty of big stuff we don't know about, or know wrong.

And I do agree that it's entertainment now. I'll stick to local news. What is there to lie about when it comes to a mill laying off 20 people, or the city canceling the spring cleanup.

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:05 pm

Cicero wrote:
sintekk wrote:
As for Sky, I've never seen it, but I imagine it's easy for them to be neutral towards American affairs, but I bet they have some sort of slant when it comes to European matters.

I dont think it is though.

And that's exactly what the right-leaning conservative might say about Fox, or the left-leaning radical might say about FAIR.

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000 · Post by **000** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:31 am

monss wrote: your right so what can be done about it?

Turn it off. Take a nap, go for a walk, ride your bike.........just get the hell away from the TV. Damn box is always spewing loads of crap into my house. Sometimes I just want to get rid of it.
I got rid of my cell phone for the same reason......damn thing kept ringing.....

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:39 am

Stasi wrote:
Cicero wrote:
sintekk wrote:
As for Sky, I've never seen it, but I imagine it's easy for them to be neutral towards American affairs, but I bet they have some sort of slant when it comes to European matters.

I dont think it is though.

And that's exactly what the right-leaning conservative might say about Fox, or the left-leaning radical might say about FAIR.

OK let me say it another way. My friend is a Socialist and he doesnt think its biased, I'd be right wing and I dont think that its biased. I have never heard any complaints about it from anyone no matter what their political stance.

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monss · Post by **monss** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:47 pm

yous say get away from the tv but news is not only on the tv it's on the web the air ways and on signs by the side of the road there in the news paper to so it's kind of hard to turn away from it when it seems its everywhere you go!

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:25 pm

News on the TV tends to represent a handfull of viewpoints, whereas on the web, you can find MANY sources so as to build your own viewpoint.

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ycontrol · Post by **ycontrol** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:20 pm

In my opinion the only way I would trust news would be if it was publically funded, otherwise it's just entertainment looking for ratings.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:21 pm

Curious as to the topic of Sadams capture not being done in the manner that I watched on the News. When was this revealed and how did you find out?. As to topic, I recently watched the movie/documentary "The Corporation" were it revealed that manipulating and lying in the news is not against the law, so I guess they can say whatever they want. Scary.
I hope CBC is not as bad as all American stations. Is it?.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:08 pm

Why'd this guy get banned?

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The Gheyness · Post by **The Gheyness** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:14 pm

I just saw the new member thingy and looked at his posts and saw the banned thingy, too.

Might have it set a little harshly there, Red? ;X

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monss · Post by **monss** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:23 am

I don't know the whole story but I think it was because he said something the US goverment didn't like so he's gone !

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:27 am

monss wrote: I don't know the whole story but I think it was because he said something the US goverment didn't like so he's gone !

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000 · Post by **000** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:36 pm

monss wrote: I don't know the whole story but I think it was because he said something the US goverment didn't like so he's gone !

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