Alternative Browsers

sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:02 pm

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shenbaw wrote: Any suggestions for a non IE browser? What am I thinking? What are your suggestions for a non IE browser?
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Firefox or Opera. (I'd personally go with Firefox: free and many more plug-ins and extensions like an adblocker)

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:14 pm

Yep firefox here too, or just plain old mozilla. Depends what you want, but firefox is smaller but suposely faster then normal mozilla. (though I never noticed a difference - they're both 100 times faster then IE though)

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:47 pm

firefox it is.

Thanks again!

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:06 pm

Can anybody give me a good link to a foxfire download? I'm having troubles.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:14 pm

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/fir...tup%201.0PR.exe

Stock model, straight from the website

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:14 pm

(It's firefox, btw)

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:04 am

Don’t just download one browser!

I beg you to try Opera as well.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:15 am

Who needs a browser when you got telnet?

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megaspaz · Post by **megaspaz** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:08 am

Red Squirrel wrote: Who needs a browser when you got telnet?

because telnet will only give you the raw code. who wants to read that? use lynx instead.

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:40 pm

sintekk wrote: (It's firefox, btw)

Ahh, which explains why I was having such a hard time finding somewhere to download "foxfire" from.

Thanks y'all.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:01 pm

megaspaz wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: Who needs a browser when you got telnet?

because telnet will only give you the raw code. who wants to read that? use lynx instead.

I forgot about lynx I'll have to install that on my server to play around with it. Might as well make my site friendly to text based browsers, since I'm sure it ain't right now.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:25 am

Well, if you have Opera, you can similate Text Browsing with it.

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megaspaz · Post by **megaspaz** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:58 pm

wow! text browsing sucks.... it takes hella longer to find stuff... hahahaha...
interesting...

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:06 pm

Old Skool!

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:44 pm

Lynx is fun to play with, but I find it harder to use than its rich-GUI sisters. I think it still can’t handle XHTML served as XHTML, but I must admit that doesn’t matter much when surfing.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:29 pm

http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:56 am

The Maxthron browser is ok, but it's engine is based on IE, which means you still inherit IE's vulnerabilities, like spyware.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:32 am

sintekk wrote: The Maxthron browser is ok, but it's engine is based on IE, which means you still inherit IE's vulnerabilities, like spyware.

I think you can use Gecko now, but support is incomplete. I have yet to try it personally.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:36 pm

What would be a cool feature for any browser to have is the ability to edit the source code, and that it actually changes it on the "site". Would be good to test scripts and such for security holes. I heard opera has this but I tried it and it did not work when I hit refresh.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:39 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: I heard opera has this but I tried it and it did not work when I hit refresh.

You must hit “Refresh display” in the View menu after modifying and saving the source.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:10 pm

Oh I see, found it. Now only if mozilla had this.

Since the more I use opera the more I realize I like mozilla better, it's a cleaner interface I find.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:45 pm

The Web Developer Extension has HTML editing ability on a to-do list. I guess the DOM Inspector is the closest thing right now.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:48 pm

Nice to know, since it is a very good way to test security of a website. Or to exploit it.

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megaspaz · Post by **megaspaz** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:58 pm

i'm really not liking firefox in linux. they decided to not support non xft versions which sucks

since i can't get the installer to work nor the non-installer program to run. nor is upgrading the xft, fontconfig packages an option since it breaks my fonts and it took a fair amount of fixing to fix. on top of that running firefox in root (to install extensions globally, i don't run as root so don't go hissy hissy over that) keeps going to whatuseek.com when using the firefox %u command even though my homepage is set to a different url. don't know where firefox is getting that frickin' page from. works good as a regular user though, but that's annoying when i have to run it as root to install extensions globally. i still say stick with mozilla or konqueror in linux. (yes, i still think opera in linux sucks

).

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:18 am

sintekk wrote: The Maxthron browser is ok, but it's engine is based on IE, which means you still inherit IE's vulnerabilities, like spyware.

I talked to someone who has it and says the spyware problem is fixed.

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