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WHY WAR?

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:53 am
by richardj
<center>A Message from the Ghost of General Patton....

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ATTENTION!

To those whining, panty-waisted, pathetic Maggots, it's time for a little refresher


course on exactly why we Americans occasionally have

to fight wars.

See if you can tear yourself away from your "reality" TV and Starbucks for a minute,


pull your head out of your flabby ass -- and LISTEN UP!!



THIS is an atrocity!

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So Was This!!!

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Got that Kennedy?

WHICH PART DON'T YOU GET?

Islam a peaceful religion???

Millions of these sons-of-:censored: are plotting as we speak to destroy our country

and

our way of life any way they can.


Some of them are here among us now.


They don't want to convert you and don't want to rule you.


They are a vile infestation of Allah's paradise. They don't give a crap how

"progressive"

you are, how peace-loving you are, or how much you sympathize with their cause.


They want you dead, and think it is God's will for them to do it.

Some think if we give them a hug or listen to them, then they'll like us...

and if you agree?



Then you are a dumb ass!


If they manage to get their hands on a nuke, chemical agents, or even some anthrax

-- you will wish to God we had hunted them down and killed THEM

while we had the chance.



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Stop bitchin' about your Damn Health Care, Social Security, Gas prices, and your

measly 5.25% unemployment rate...and start worrying about you, your family's, and

your friends' asses.


How many more Americans must be beheaded before you stop blaming Washington

for all your troubles -- and grow some balls for a change.


You've fallen asleep AGAIN, maggots!

And you may not get another chance!


NOW GET OFF YOUR SORRY ASS -

and pass this on to any and every person you give-a-damn about..

if you ever gave a damn about anything.

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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:59 pm
by manadren_it
Yeah, that's the American way. The only way to stop people from hating us... is to kill them.

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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:24 pm
by rovingcowboy
Nnnnooooo!!! :(

theres another way :)

beat them senseless until they realize we're not going to change or lose so they better change their way of thinking and not be mean to us.

:D

there is also my way.

give them back ten times the amount of pain they give me. that makes them think twice about how much pain they want.

i'm harmless really i am i just go crazy when someone trys to do something to me or does hurt me. the term used for this way of acting is normaly only applied to vikings,

" berserker " One of the ancient Norse warriors legendary ways for working themselves into a frenzy before a battle and fighting with reckless savagery and insane fury

that is an old dictionary meaning. what they found out in research is that the guys were really crazy with an illment that made them get mad with rage when needed it also gave them strength there are storys of them coming back from a raid and jumping in to the cold water to swim to shore and wrestle large bolders to get rid of the rage in them.

not all were like that but a few were and they were used as the marrines for the others as they would also make them angry when leaving for a raid so they would jump out of the boat and swim to shore and start fighting anything that moved on land killing all in their way and leaving a wake of death. then the others would come in and take over when the first wave got tired and the rage had wore off.

not that i claim to be from them. but they were in america first there is a stone marker in illonis.. made by them and some were found in minnisotta. which makes them here 400 years or so before columbus.

so that can explain how we get enraged. that and the fact the vikings all merged in with the english french and germans. and that is were most the people in america came from.. my self included my family came from both paths one side from england the other from germany through france.

so there is 3 ways to deal with those that want to hurt americans.

although i must admit the fact that THERE AIN'T A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THEM. ah ha ha.

:D :P



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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:47 pm
by Red Squirrel
LOL that is great. :lol:

But like John Kerry would say: "It's the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time, so they need to increase the funding for it."

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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:11 pm
by richardj
manadren wrote: Yeah, that's the American way. The only way to stop people from hating us... is to kill them.
AAHHHHHHHHHHH-----------------------NOOOOOOOOOOO!!


YOU MISSED THE POINT COMPLETELY! :rolleyes:

YOU KILL THEM BEFORE THEY GET A CHANCE TO KILL YOU

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY FEEL.

FROM ABOVE-------------------------

Some think if we give them a hug or listen to them, then they'll like us...

and if you agree?



Then you are a dumb ass! :no no no:

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:13 am
by jellyfish
If you are so concerned about the state of safety of your country why not join the army yourself?

Or are you one of those people who does not pratice what you preach?

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:08 am
by richardj
:blink:


UMMMMMMMMMM--CUS I'M A LITTLE TOO OLD


You don't have to serve in the military to be patriotic-----just love your country------

OR WEREN'T YOU TAUGHT THAT IN SCHOOL??

FURTHERMORE--FOR THE RECORD-----

MY SON IS A SARGEANT IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY


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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:20 am
by manadren_it
What YOU are missing mr richardj is that when you go all balls out and kill slaughter maim all the terrorists, you know what you get? Smarter, more determined terrorists, who will be willing to do even worse. Not to mention a lot fewer friends. You're missing the bigger picture. The crap you are suggesting is exactly what the terrorists want - more reasons to hate us, more allies for the anti-American cause. But then talking to you or giving you a hug isn't going to change your mind either.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:24 am
by richardj
rovingcowboy wrote:

beat them senseless until they realize we're not going to change or lose  so they better change their way of thinking and not be mean to us.

:D

there is also my way.

give them back ten times the amount of pain they give me.  that makes them think twice about how much pain they want.
:biglaugh:

THAT WORK'S TOO! :awesome:

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:46 am
by richardj
manadren wrote: What YOU are missing mr richardj is that when you go all balls out and kill slaughter maim all the terrorists, you know what you get? Smarter, more determined terrorists, who will be willing to do even worse. Not to mention a lot fewer friends. You're missing the bigger picture. The crap you are suggesting is exactly what the terrorists want - more reasons to hate us, more allies for the anti-American cause. But then talking to you or giving you a hug isn't going to change your mind either.
:blink: :P

<center>PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE---


READ SOME HISTORY OF HOW ENGLAND TRIED TO APPEASE THE NAZIS AT THE START OF WW2--------------BELOW IS THE RESULTS OF THE APPEASEMENT

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"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it;" George Santayana

Patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:47 am
by manadren_it
I feel like I'm arguing with William Wallace :P

Sorry, I fail to see your point here. The terrorists we face aren't exactly the same as nazis. Nor do I see how the only options here are to "appease" the terrorists or bomb the everliving :censored: out of the middleast. MY point is that brute strength doesn't work against terrorism.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:18 am
by richardj
manadren wrote: I feel like I'm arguing with William Wallace :P

Sorry, I fail to see your point here. The terrorists we face aren't exactly the same as nazis. Nor do I see how the only options here are to "appease" the terrorists or bomb the everliving :censored: out of the middleast. MY point is that brute strength doesn't work against terrorism.
Your argument is illogical because it is as foolish as it is baseless-what facts show

that strength will not defeat terrorism??

Secondly, the analogy to the Nazis is--they WERE TERRORISTS!!___HELLO??

Thirdly, you won't understand when we nuke Iran--either--yes they are next.

Had that pussy peanut headed President Carter did it 30yrs. ago, we wouldn't have to deal with

them now--another example of how Republicans have to clean up the messes made by

past Democratic administrations and another example of inaction against terrorists.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:50 am
by richardj
<center>Americans are asking, "Why do they hate us?"

They hate what they see right here in this chamber: a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.

They want to overthrow existing governments in many Muslim countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan. They want to drive Israel out of the Middle East. They want to drive Christians and Jews out of vast regions of Asia and Africa.

These terrorists kill not merely to end lives, but to disrupt and end a way of life. With every atrocity, they hope that America grows fearful, retreating from the world and forsaking our friends. They stand against us because we stand in their way.

We're not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They're the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power,they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism.

And they will follow that path all the way to where it ends in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:53 am
by rovingcowboy
jellyfish wrote: If you are so concerned about the state of safety of your country why not join the army yourself?

Or are you one of those people who does not pratice what you preach?
I did my tour when regan was president.

I don't need to go back in to it but I am willing if they ever get to needing fat out of shape old men.?

all that fat will be removed and i will be in shape again. :banana:

but i don't think i would want to carry the m60 the m203 and the m16 around anymore that and all the ammo for them gets heavy after you get a little older.

i would do a desk job and free up some others that are more able to carry them.

in a jam though i would be right in front leading the way. just as i did in all the tranning excersizes we did when i was in there.

that reminds me? they had planed a excersize to last 20 minutes once. when it started it was over in 2 minutes why? because i had already got to the item that was needed to secure and finish the excersize, thats why, i just went crazy and ran head on in to the other side of attackers and got behind them then shot from behind getting them all, you can use a m60 with one arm don't ya know. :roflmao2:

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:22 am
by rovingcowboy
manadren wrote: What YOU are missing mr richardj is that when you go all balls out and kill slaughter maim all the terrorists, you know what you get? Smarter, more determined terrorists, who will be willing to do even worse. Not to mention a lot fewer friends. You're missing the bigger picture. The crap you are suggesting is exactly what the terrorists want - more reasons to hate us, more allies for the anti-American cause. But then talking to you or giving you a hug isn't going to change your mind either.
manadren?

:unsure:

what you are not remembering ?maybe your not old enough?

but we did extend the hand of peace to them, the countrys were

our friends then the terriost took over iran. then they started with the other

countrys as in egypt then they started in lebonon then they took over afgistan.

then sudam took over kuwat. that was the last straw that little country did not even have any military they thought no one would attack them they were friendly to every one including THEIR FELLOW MUSLIMS who attacked them? their fellow MUSLIMS,

who was the first to come to their aid. US here in the USA. we did it because they were a friend in need. they were relying on our military to protect them as we said we would do when we signed the treaty with them to buy their oil.

so we could have gone in to irqua by ourslefs but we took the world with us to prove we were not doing it for the oil which every one still in their stupid little minds thinks we were doing.

if we wanted the oil why we can just take the stuff by taking over the country.

but we don't want it. we would rather they had it and we buy it from them to make them a stronger country.

then sudam insane was left go since he had found he was not as strong as he thought. and the Un told him to do things or >else< they said that about a dozen times and then we said enough do it now. he still did not.

so this second war in baggdad is just a follow up to the other one cause they did not do what the UN, had told them to do.


all those other times when about 40 years ago they were all our friends over there and the dozen times of the >else< from the UN, were the olive branches.

each time the terriost took them and broke them. our friends had to leave their own countrys or get killed. now we are going back in to get the terriost back in the hole in the ground they came out of and every peace loving person that does not know the past, dislikes us for doing so.

Richardj is correct in pointing out that the past will repete it's self if we don't keep it in memory, and that is just what is happening.

the stupid terriosts are taking the place of hitler and his cronnies. they are trying to and doing a good job of making all the nonviolent muslims think we hate them.

we do not hate them, we do not hate anyone we have been trying to help every country in the world since we were formed as a country. " Give Us Your Tired Your Poor and Your Weak "
that is helping the other countrys with thier economie by taking what they can no longer handle, and then us taking care of them. in doing so they gladly came here and became americans.

most would now if still alive be willing to bomb the s.... out of the terriosts because they were once in a postion of being meniced by other terriosts.

the terriosts now as always do not care at all in anyone elses rights or even if they live. they just want their messed up way of thinking to be in charge.

they don't care for freedom, because they are scared of it. they don't know what to do with freedom, they have always been undercontrol of another terroist, becuse they willingly give up their own control over their live to that other terroist,

willingly? because they want to live at that minute but then they are brainwashed and become terroists also.

once an infection gets in it spreads until the body can kill it. the terriost are the infection the armys that fight the terriost are the inmmune system..

soon the body will be healed again. then i am sure the next infection will rasie its ungly head to try and cause trouble again. always has and always will until the lord jesus comes back and takes control of all the earth again.

....

:o

wow theres no more letters on the keys on this keyboard?

did i say that enough ways now?
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:23 pm
by manadren_it
bloody hell. I AM arguing with William Wallace. I thought that guy was banned?

Here's what I'm seeing here.

"Terrorists are bad, we must bomb the hell out of them and anyone vaguely related to them."

"No you're missing the point. Terrorists are BAD."

"Ok, you're missing the point, let me explain it a different way. Terrorists are BAD."

I never said terrorists weren't bad. I never said that we should try to negotiate peace or win them over to our side. What I'm saying is that we need a plan to eliminate the terrorists that's slightly more tactful, slightly more precise, and slightly more complex than bomb the crap out of everything.

But I'm going to step out of the thread now. No use arguing with "Patriotic" Americans. It's proving to be about as fruitful as trying to convince Osama Bin Laden that we aren't the devil.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:12 pm
by Red Squirrel
If this turns into too much of an argument I'll close it, I want to avoid this type of stuff here.

lol @ william wallace. He will never be forgotten, specially at AF, he thought he was all that by organizing that attack, till he realized I had his IP. Doh!

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:41 pm
by richardj
Red Squirrel wrote: If this turns into too much of an argument I'll close it, I want to avoid this type of stuff here.

Doh!
YES-----

GOD FORBID THAT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A HALF INTERESTING THREAD GOING! :rolleyes:

<center>MY NAME IS RED------I AM THE DECIDER
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:05 pm
by sintekk
While I feel that Red must do what he has to do, this forum does say politics is allowed and 'arguments' (a pretty mild term for what politics normally dredge up) go with the territory.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:45 pm
by Red Squirrel
Yeah that's why I'm leaving it go, but if it turns into name calling and such, it gets closed.

And back to the topic....

I find the attitude lot of people have is not really good. Such as KILL KILL KILL THEM ALL!! Stuff like the jail torturing and such is not right.

1) Have war in the right location
2) kill the right people

Think both of those are all wrong when it comes to the Iraq war. :lol: and nuking any country is not the answer, look at hiroshima. Aperently, there are still effects today of the bomb, because of the radiation. So the damage done does not only affect the guilty and innocent today, but also the innocents tomorow.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:10 pm
by richardj
Washington, 28 April 2005 (RFE/RL) --

The U.S. State Department says in a new report that Iran was the "most active" state sponsor of terrorism last year, putting the Tehran government atop a group of six countries cited in the department's annual report on terrorism that remain subject to U.S. sanctions.

The U.S. government also released new figures indicating a large amount of terrorist activity worldwide in 2004 but officials insisted it did not mean a sharp increase from previous years.

The State Department report, issued yesterday, says Iran continues to use terrorism as an instrument of state policy, most notably in anti-Israeli activities.

The report says Iran provided funding, safe haven, training, and weapons for Lebanon-based Hezbollah and Palestinian terrorist groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.

State Department counselor Philip Zelikow told reporters of a range of alleged pro-terrorist activities by the Iranian regime.

"Iran and Syria are of special concern for their direct, open and prominent role in sponsoring Hezbollah and Palestinian terrorist groups, for their unhelpful actions in Iraq, and, in Iran's case, the unwillingness to bring to justice senior Al-Qaeda members detained in 2003."

Iran in the past has not denied offering moral and political support to groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, but has said it did not provide material aid to them.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:21 pm
by richardj
rovingcowboy wrote: i just went crazy and ran head on in to the other side of attackers and got behind them then shot from behind getting them all,  you can use a m60 with one arm don't ya know. :roflmao2:

<center> :thumbsup: ROVING RAMBO :awesome:

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:48 pm
by rovingcowboy
yep this should not be a flame thread. manadren if your still reading this thread, i wish to say sorry if i mis understood your posting. :(

richardj. it helps when i move at a natural 7 mph walking speed. i was halfway there before i started to run? ha ha. oh of course as in the excerisze the guns shot blanks and used the lasor tag system.


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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:22 pm
by richardj
manadren wrote: bloody hell. I AM arguing with William Wallace. I thought that guy was banned?

Here's what I'm seeing here.

"Terrorists are bad, we must bomb the hell out of them and anyone vaguely related to them."

"No you're missing the point. Terrorists are BAD."

"Ok, you're missing the point, let me explain it a different way. Terrorists are BAD."

I never said terrorists weren't bad. I never said that we should try to negotiate peace or win them over to our side. What I'm saying is that we need a plan to eliminate the terrorists that's slightly more tactful, slightly more precise, and slightly more complex than bomb the crap out of everything.
WHAT PLAN??

Whats your plan to stop terrorists who want to kill you ??

AHHH--NO--- :banghead:

I never said terrorists were bad.

I'm saying terrorists are RUTHLESS KILLERS!

The way to deal with ruthless killers is to kill them before they kill you!

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:36 pm
by manadren_it
rovingcowboy wrote: yep this should not be a flame thread. manadren if your still reading this thread, i wish to say sorry if i mis understood your posting. :(

richardj. it helps when i move at a natural 7 mph walking speed. i was halfway there before i started to run? ha ha. oh of course as in the excerisze the guns shot blanks and used the lasor tag system.
I'm still reading, I'm just not posting on topic anymore :P

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