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3 accounts per person, max

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:39 pm
by Red Squirrel
As theres is no system in place to enforce this, it is not yet a rule, but this is just a warning that eventually there will be a limit of 3 accounts max per person. I need to come up with a system to identify a single person, the best thing I can think of is email address, though this has its own flaws as well such as making multiple email accounts. Note that this will be per person, not per house hold, not per IP, but per person.

Just thought I would warn everyone in advance so you dont go making a 4th account, as chars cannot be moved.

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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:02 pm
by E.Machine
hmmm....


and if we already have four accounts?

uhh.. i mean... you know.. a friend of a friends uncles brother... this guy i know... he has four accounts... what should I tell him?

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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:18 pm
by Red Squirrel
People with more then 3 will have to consolidate to 3, but they have a few months before this is effective.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:32 am
by Finlander
What about me.. err this one guy.. he has around 7 accounts and like half of them in good spots, he says its his summer vacation and he really cant be arsed to log in and start moving the shit out of the houses / accounts as it would take ages.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:32 am
by Gaiava Arkkaza
Finlander wrote:What about me.. err this one guy.. he has around 7 accounts and like half of them in good spots, he says its his summer vacation and he really cant be arsed to log in and start moving the shit out of the houses / accounts as it would take ages.
Then 4 of such accounts will go bye bye. We are only GOING TO enforce this rule because theres certain people abusing the lack of account limits. Hence why we are giving time for the people to move their stuff and all that.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:42 am
by Red Squirrel
The thing I have in mind, this may change is this:

There would be a web interface on uosrv.uovalor.com to register a UO account, this could be the same as your forum account, but would be seperate. With this web account you register an email address and must activate it. Once in, you can then register up to 3 UO accounts. For existing users, you will need to pick 3 of your existing accounts and enter the same password. The web server would then add this information to the database while the UO shard contacts this database occasionally to apply the changes, such as newly registered accounts.

Password changes would also be handled by the web interface.

uosrv.uovalor.com 1337 would be changed into a gateway server which authenticates logons with the database - it would only let you through if the account is registered through the web system. If allowed, you'd then pick your shard and be redirected, so I'd just change the port to like 1338. Auto account creation would also be disabled.

As for current users, I *may* be lenient and allow multiple accounts, at least for those who do not abuse it. I could even make it so there is a limit of how many accounts can be logged in at once (3) so those with more then 3 still cant have more then 3 online at once.


All this takes lot of programming though, C++ for the gateway server, php for the web interface and some C# to handle syncing the database.

So ml is still priority over this and it may be another few months until I consider ML complete. At that point there will still be lot of ML tweaks/additions to do as well.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:40 pm
by Death
The extended account limit has always been so that players who choose to play from the same IP (Such as a household or cybercafe) could be accomodated for the total number of people, not so that one person can have several accounts sitting around and afk'ing it up.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:49 pm
by Finlander
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:
Finlander wrote:What about me.. err this one guy.. he has around 7 accounts and like half of them in good spots, he says its his summer vacation and he really cant be arsed to log in and start moving the shit out of the houses / accounts as it would take ages.
Then 4 of such accounts will go bye bye. We are only GOING TO enforce this rule because theres certain people abusing the lack of account limits. Hence why we are giving time for the people to move their stuff and all that.
This certain person iam talking about isnt abusing them by means of botting or macroing, he just likes house building and also is hoping for playerbase to get bigger to sell those spots for profit.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:41 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
Finlander wrote:
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:
Finlander wrote:What about me.. err this one guy.. he has around 7 accounts and like half of them in good spots, he says its his summer vacation and he really cant be arsed to log in and start moving the shit out of the houses / accounts as it would take ages.
Then 4 of such accounts will go bye bye. We are only GOING TO enforce this rule because theres certain people abusing the lack of account limits. Hence why we are giving time for the people to move their stuff and all that.
This certain person iam talking about isnt abusing them by means of botting or macroing, he just likes house building and also is hoping for playerbase to get bigger to sell those spots for profit.
We cant apply a rule to just a select few people.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:45 pm
by Nosferatu
Yeah taking up valuable spots in luna with houses that have only finland flags on them.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:22 pm
by E.Machine
Nosferatu wrote:Yeah taking up valuable spots in luna with houses that have only finland flags on them.
especially when he doesn't even play lol.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:24 pm
by Nosferatu
Aye thats sort of my whole point, at least Eby gives his shit away :P

Nos has taken your soul over and made you do it i know. =[

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:34 pm
by Lymus
9- There is no account limit, but be reasonable. The rule of thumb is 3 max maybe a 4th for mule chars, but since some of you may already have more then 3 or live in the same house as others who also play, I'm willing to be flexible with this. It will only be a problem if I see someone abusing this, like making a crap load of accounts for bod running or bots.
Sounds to me like I can have four.

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:39 pm
by Nosferatu
looks like i got 0 to my name :D

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:42 pm
by E.Machine
Nosferatu wrote:looks like i got 0 to my name :D
what?

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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:03 pm
by Nosferatu
i own no homes

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:00 am
by Lymus
Nosferatu wrote:i own no homes
In the statement, he was refering to people in your household. I'd hope you live in a house in real life. =/

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:03 pm
by Finlander
Nosferatu wrote:Yeah taking up valuable spots in luna with houses that have only finland flags on them.
i dont see any houses inside luna what are finland flags

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:43 pm
by Nosferatu
finland fags? well thats you sir.

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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:44 pm
by Lymus
Nosferatu wrote:finland fags? well thats you sir.
I hope you forgot to type the L on "flags".

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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:05 am
by Nosferatu
oh .. oops

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:58 am
by Dumples
Finlander wrote:
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:
Finlander wrote:What about me.. err this one guy.. he has around 7 accounts and like half of them in good spots, he says its his summer vacation and he really cant be arsed to log in and start moving the shit out of the houses / accounts as it would take ages.
Then 4 of such accounts will go bye bye. We are only GOING TO enforce this rule because theres certain people abusing the lack of account limits. Hence why we are giving time for the people to move their stuff and all that.
This certain person iam talking about isnt abusing them by means of botting or macroing, he just likes house building and also is hoping for playerbase to get bigger to sell those spots for profit.
Just out of curiosity... isn't this one of the purposes of the 3 account rule being suggested? This way you don't get someone with a bunch of accounts just to hold up real esate spots to sell later? That's kind of an exploit itself.

Not sure how viable it is as a solution, but if we run out of storage space, would increasing house storage capacity be a solution?

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:29 pm
by Red Squirrel
Yeah the max number of accounts is one way to limit houses too. At most, I will go 5 accounts max, but it will probably be 3. My goal is 3 accounts maxed, 2 logged in max. So it makes it harder to bot off, you can have maybe 1 afk char doing something and playing the other, but thats max.

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:11 pm
by Finlander
Dumples wrote:
Finlander wrote:
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:
Then 4 of such accounts will go bye bye. We are only GOING TO enforce this rule because theres certain people abusing the lack of account limits. Hence why we are giving time for the people to move their stuff and all that.
This certain person iam talking about isnt abusing them by means of botting or macroing, he just likes house building and also is hoping for playerbase to get bigger to sell those spots for profit.
Just out of curiosity... isn't this one of the purposes of the 3 account rule being suggested? This way you don't get someone with a bunch of accounts just to hold up real esate spots to sell later? That's kind of an exploit itself.

Not sure how viable it is as a solution, but if we run out of storage space, would increasing house storage capacity be a solution?
Well, actualy those spots have decorated houses on them, unlike 30% of houses inside luna walls which have dirt.

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:29 pm
by Red Squirrel
the dirt ones are really the ones that anoy me, since its people who placed them, but don't even play. I don't interfeer with players so I wont go and delete them, though I have had evil thoughts of making a [forceidoc command which would start the idoc cycle early on a house, but if the person logs in, it would refresh, and the cycle would be at least a few days. But that is not yet planned and if it was, it would be posted.

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