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as of right now i have a few words on 2000 pro
but red would kick me off the forum.....
i don`t believe this the damm thing loads up to the starting page i watch the bar move then it locks up.i`ve done a repair and it can`t find any problems.now what out side of reformatting to get ride of the nice ??????piece of ??? i`ve try evey opp it has to offer even in safe mode does the same thing...

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12048

Maybe you have some hardware that isn't compatible with Windows 2000.

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takahita_tsukino wrote: Maybe you have some hardware that isn't compatible with Windows 2000.

I think that's the problem right there.

Win2000 is a very good OS, but if you have one, yes just ONE component that's not compatible with it, then you're screwed, and if you try to download 3rd party drivers for it, you'll usually get problems. I tried it before, on the P3 that has lot of hardware on it and I got a BSOD. Win2K is bad for compatibility. That's why I don't use a webcam or own a printer or scanner. About the only thing in this house that would work is the camera, but that stays downstairs anyway. I find having USB devices causes problems, so I let the P3 have them all.

If you don't appologize you will be banned in 5 minutes. J/K

You would not want to hear what I have to say about winXP.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12052

ok
the only thing on this computer is the computer,
no printer,no nothing just the tower the key board mouse and monitor.
damm if i know it loaded with out any problems .but now when it boot it loads the start up and freezes.without me using any of the f keys when it was installed
so i guess i need to clean it off the hhd and start over .i`ve looked in a bunch of sites even microsucks and came up with nothing .
on what the problem is .

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12068

the last time it was on this computer was 4 months ago
i run a two hhd system it`s the only thing on the hhd.the other is unpluged
it loaded the last time with no problems .nothing been added to this computer
i never changed the bois or any thing else .so i have no clue what in the hell is going on with pro.
i`ve tried using the tools under F8
no go .it loads up to the starting windows and locks up
be kind of hard to show you the files because ti doesn`t load.
unless you can tell me how to.i`ll be more then happy to show you.
it`s funny it said if the repair doesn`t work run set-up again .so i did
so now there`s two copies of a non working os
i can`t believe i did it.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12070

That is strange... but then again, it's almost like you're Red. He has mysterious problems with a lot of operating systems. I've never had a problem with 2000Pro, and I was skeptical when XP came out and hated it until I discovered Compatibility Mode.... heh... anyway, back to tw2's problem.

It might be searching for information from a network (That MIGHT cause it to slow down when loading), but locking up seems a little strange. My best guess would be that something happened to the OS. You might want to install it again, with the latest Service Pack (which is now SP4).

Good luck, sorry I couldn't help.


Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12072

jryan wrote: That is strange... but then again, it's almost like you're Red. He has mysterious problems with a lot of operating systems.

Since ever I got a new PC and put 2K that mystery has been solved. Still not solved on the old computer, but it does not matter.

But it's weird that it's locking up like that. Could be network like Josh was saying though as I noticed when I boot 2K and that the other "leg" of the network is down, it slows down because it's searching for the shares and can't connect to them. But it never locks up.

I'd reinstall as well.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12073

ok,
now i really don`t understand .now i have a problem if the damm thing isn`t going to load on start up .
you want me to put a thrid copy on the hhd ???
i don`t get it if the first two didn`t work what`s going to make the thrid one
work , i`m missing something and i don`t see how putting it on a agin is going to make it better ??

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12079

If you don't have anything to loose try the reinstall. If it occurs after reinstalling then you have a recent hardware issue. 2000 Pro is extremely sensitive to hardware problems. If a piece of hardware is starting to error out then 2000 will notice it.

I betting you still have the same problem after a fresh install. Especially since you stated you installed a second copy on the hard drive and it is erroring out. When 2000 Pro is booting during the black screen with the line at the bottom ntldr is in charge and loading low level drivers such as ide, board etc. Upper level drivers get loaded after the windows logo shows up during boot.

As to reading the boot file. The file is called ntbtlog.txt and is created when you ask for logging from the F8 menu. You boot straight to command prompt and can read it there. If that is not possible you can boot into 'recovery console' by using the 2000 Pro cd. From there you can copy the file to diskette to be read from another machine.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12080

ok it`s worth a shot i`ll put the cd back in and run through it again to see if i can find the problem .if not i`ll run the set up and put another copy on .
but not going to hold my breath.if i needed to add drivers i would think on setup it it would stop and post that i need drivers. but that didn`t happen .
so i`ll play with it tomorrow and with a clear head and see what happens


Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12084

Also make sure it's a clean install, and not just a normal "on top" install as that usually does not fix problems.

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red
i`ll do a zero set on the hhd and start over ..
i`ll start it before i head to bed it take i little while
it`s a 120gb

jryan
installing service packs would be nice
but if you can`t get into the os or make it load


Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12088

low level drivers are installed by the OS. Have you ever noticed and wondered why after a new install without any drivers loaded that you still have access to your hard drive? In fact when you boot from the 2000 Pro cd the files that are loaded immediately are 'low level' drivers required to be in place in order to install the OS. If the OS can't see the Hard disk and some board drivers it would not be able to install. Even base video drivers are installed. The drivers that a user installs are very few compared to the amount needed overall for an operating system to function.

Good luck with the install. If you have any errors that show please post them here.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12090

ok this was fun
i had one of my friends come over after work this morning
he`s on 3 to 3 so he got here about 4;15 this morning
after starting with a clean hhd and 5 hour later he left talking to himself.
and he runs 2000 pro said he`s never seen the likes
same thing again loads up without any problems on the last restart remove the disk
it boots to the start screen and sit there we left it for 30 minutes nothing .even tried to boot into safe mode just sits there.damm if i know he doesn`t either.
the only thing i come up with is the last time i ran it i had XP PRO on the hhd and installed it after it so maybe i need to start over clean the hhd again
and start the install
XP PRO corp,then 2000 PRO,then so on and so on.
i think this might clear up the problems just drop them on the same hhd and keep loading the windows os i want back on

is this the right order for loading windows back in

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12092

it looks like you're using some kind of upgrade or just installing on top of another OS. I would not recomend this. If you want winXP, format C and install it, if you want win2k, format C then install it as well. But don't just install it on top of the current configuration. It's suppost to work, but I can just imagine the problems it can cause as well.

But if you're having problems even after a clean install, I'm starting to think it might be a hardware problem. Maybe overheating if you're lucky. The reason I say you'd be lucky since it would be easy to fix, you'd just have to get better cooling. Does that board have a temp sensor on it?

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12108

red
yes i have a temp senser have no it not running hot .

and i use full OS`s not any up grades.
so i`ll clean off all the crap again and zero set the hhd

so if i want all the os`s back on i have to start on XP then 2000 pro
but ,if i do a zero set on the hhd i should have to format unless i run fdisk.
to make paraitions i think the os will make there own ?
not sure on the others i want to use i know XP and 2000 will

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12110

I think win2000 has an option to delete and remake the partition, since if it's ntfs, you won't be able to format it using a win98 boot disk. But you can delete and remake the partition and reformat it as well in then win2k setup. Not sure about XP as I never installed it before.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12115

ok red


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kinda sounds like the acpi issue.
i've never seen it, but i've heard plenty about it.
google it (acpi issues) and you'll see the havok it's caused.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12244

no idea what fishy said??

i dont know the acronims for this stuff. but what it sounds like to me is your trying to have multiple os's on the hard drive and boot to any one you want to.?


that is going to cause you the biggest headache you have had in years.

but the trouble you seem to be running in to is a driver verses driver conflict are you even able to get into command promte only ? if so try to read your boot record and see what the last one to do a successful load is. then the one next in line is the trouble maker.



think of these computers like people most the time you talk to one person online. but now and then you use the 3 way conversation on the phone. How many times do you hear from one person the words "what did you say" ?

it is always easier to talk to one person and be heard then to make sure two are listening to you.

same thing with the computers trying to get both os's to listen is not easy.



Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:1396, old post ID:12248

the win2k/winxp acpi is the intergrated power control for windows, it allows windows to start up and turn off devices at will.
unfortunatly not all devices are acpi compliant, if windows is installed in acpi mode, and you have non acpi compliant hardware you'll have various problems, the most notable of these is the hang at start up.
one workaround for this is to press the F8 key when installing windows.
the time to do this is when you first boot from the windows disk and it asks you for third party ide/raid drivers. just press the F8 key. you won't see any changes, it just silently changes from acpi mode to api mode.

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rovingcowboy
i`ve been running multiples os`s on hhd for many years.
and haven`t had many problems .i also run two or thre hhd `s
and i`ve had 2000 running on this computer without any problems till now..
damm if i know the reason it wouldn`t work this time .
but i`ll figure it out just not in a rush right now to do so

fishyfool
sounds about right ,but not on the F8
maybe F7 so it will load the other drivers.
never had to use the F keys before when using 2000
on installing it on the hhd
but like i`ve said before it`s a windows OS
just for grins i installed XP corp. after the failure on 2000
and right in no problems even with SP1
it`s just not loading right so i`ll get around to fixing it

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