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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:07 am
by rovingcowboy
B)

how many do you have in your computers?

does not matter what format just was wondering how many were into it like me.

i have been avg.. 332.5 songs a year for the last 4 years. that is a lot in a computer. and i am still going to add more. :rolleyes:

of course this is in the off line jukebox i am making. and that is only the ogg files i have in it. there are about that many mp3's (because my sister bought an mp3 player) other wise there would not be any mp3's.

my tastes for music range from rock and roll to elvis and the beach boys to country and western to bluegrass, and big band and classical and even some newage techno stuff, not much of that last one but a couple midis of it. B)

it sure is alot of work making this jukebox since i have to put them in from tape after i record the tape from the records then i have to type in the information in the tags for each song as well as edit it to put in the missing echos that the computer takes out when you make a digital song from an old one that was not digital. then i have to convert it from wav. that is a lot of time on an old pent 2 , 266 hrz cpu even if i did over clock the pent 2 to a 269 or 272 hrz. it still aint fast like this pent 4 2.35 ghz. cpu. :D

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:25 pm
by Wren
I don't have the first song on my pc. :lol:

If I want music, I just turn on one of DirecTV's music stations. :P

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:59 pm
by Chris Vogel
~320


Keep in mind that most of those are songs that I ripped from my CDs. I have them all in 128kbps MP3 (Yes, I know... :banghead: :banghead: ). I am seriously thinking about ripping them all again but this time in FLAC. :)

It'll take up much more space though. :unsure:

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:16 pm
by rovingcowboy
takahita_tsukino wrote: ~320


Keep in mind that most of those are songs that I ripped from my CDs. I have them all in 128kbps MP3 (Yes, I know... :banghead: :banghead: ). I am seriously thinking about ripping them all again but this time in FLAC. :)

It'll take up much more space though. :unsure:
take up more room :blink: :blink:

there is no need for that. use the ogg vorbis format and set it at a vbr, of an average of 196 and a high of 256 and a low of 128, you will get the best there is that way. B)

the file will be listed as the 196 or which ever is the real average of the file and it will use as much or as little space is needed i have some songs that range from 420 bps to 50 bps in the same song it uses what it needs where it needs it. and the file sounds just as good.

as the mp3 format. now i know i have mine sat to the vbr of 256 average and 196 as the low and 320 as the high. but i got lots of room.

still if you want better sound with smaller room at the same bps as your mp3's are now just make it ogg and set to a standard bps of 128 it will make your file smaller and sound just as good or better then the mp3. :lol:

you only need to get one program to do the converting for you also. just go and get

cdex.exe from webattack.com or some download place it is free and you can figure it out fairly easy if your ripping the songs all ready. becaus that is just a cd ripper program that uses a lot of different formats so you can use one you like. i just stick with ogg. as i like it. B)

but you can also use it to open a folder and convert all the mp3's to wav files then you just use it to reconvert them to ogg or what ever you like that it can use.
which is what i would do, it is not needed to re rip them from the cdrom. as you have them in good condition already. just take them and make them back in to a wav and then they are like they are on the cdrom, so it is just like making them into the other format the first time. :awesome:

just make sure you set the normalization limits to the best. i set them to make all sound higher then 90% volume on the ripped file be no louder then 99% volume and i make it have all sound lower then 85% volume be no lower then 80% volume. now that is not making it scream at you all the time it will make each note to that for each notes volume on the file.

in other words, it does not raise the volume limit for each file to those only the volume % of the single note's volume %.

so you still get the song sounding like it is fading out but it is set to were it is easier to hear, since the notes can vary in the volume when recorded.

hard to explain in normal words and even harder to understand in tech words. :lol:



but i use the media jukebox for line in recording.

( but they have changed to a media center and i dont have the update so use caution if you want media jukebox. as i think they are going to retire it shortly.)

i use cdex ripper for all the converting and i use winamp to do all the tag editing, all free programs :awesome: but to add in the lost echo which if you listen you will hear the notes of a digital song are missing the full sound of a live singer or an old vinyl record (which recorded the exact sound from the singer) the digital does not record all the sound but what it is programed to do.

so i use a wav editor to add in the echo which is a lot of typing to tell you how. but it is already on my music site on a tip page so you can go there and read how to do it. but i have found some trouble doing the echo in the newer soundcards with equalizers built on them people set up that eq. on the card and then if they add in the echo to the file they can get too much echo and it is because they forgot the card eq. was already set up with echo.

so it is up to the way that you listen to music and just your likes and dislikes.

they say that most people that dont play a musical instrument are not able to tell the echo is not there. it is just that i am able to tell the difference and i like the echo. B) no i cant play musical instruments, if i try and keep beat on a drum i can do that in rythum for about 30 seconds then it turns in to just banging. :cry: i am not any good at that.


here i went and did it again said i just wanted to know how many were into songs like i am , and i went and did an add for ogg and to tell you how to convert and what other programs to use. bad bad bad :no no no:

sorry. :(

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:22 pm
by rovingcowboy
Wren wrote: I don't have the first song on my pc.  :lol:

If I want music, I just turn on one of DirecTV's music stations.  :P
B)

I do that too with the cable channels but i stick in a 6 or 8 hour vcr and record them. then i send them to the stereo unit and copy the ones that i want that are any good. i found that those channels mess with the songs. :angry:

they will make it seem like it was just a little wavie like when you run under a bridge while listening to the radio station that is 25 or more miles away, it fades in just a little?

i have caught the cable music channels making them sound like that on a few songs mostly the newer songs and not all the time they play them.

cause i got some that were new and did not fade in and out but the next time i heard them they did fade in and out.

so it is like pot luck when you try and take them for free. :(

but i got um boy. :banana: :roflmao2: dang it i want a song when i what a song. :warezrulez:

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 2:54 pm
by manadren_it
This is a little bit of an educated guess, but about 3600. basically I just did a file count of my mp3 drive. It came out about 3700, but I rounded down, because there are probabaly some nfo and sfv files stuck in there. Some ripped for legit cds I have, some free, some not. All in mp3 format, though on the ones I ripped, I ripped in LAME which is much better than fraunhofer or xing in terms of quality, and it's even open-source :)

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:41 pm
by Chris Vogel
Thanks for the advice, Rovingcowboy. I do think I will stick with FLAC though since it is totally lossless. B) (That's the reason it takes up so much space I would suppose. :lol: )

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