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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:19 pm
by Red Squirrel
I'm working on a jack of all trades AI, which uses all possible skills that I impliment... well mostly spell related skills and I got thinking, would be cool if monsters would also say spell mantras, so you actually know which spells they're casting before they target you with it, would bring a pvp aspect to pvm. :P Some spells like chiv spells show up already, so to be consistent I may as well add em all.


So what do you guys think?

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:22 pm
by E.Machine
Honestly, I have been thinking that FOREVER! I'm assuming you won't be able to fizzle their spells, but I have always wanted to know what Im' going to be nailed with.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:51 am
by Death
Red Squirrel wrote:I'm working on a jack of all trades AI, which uses all possible skills that I impliment... well mostly spell related skills and I got thinking, would be cool if monsters would also say spell mantras, so you actually know which spells they're casting before they target you with it, would bring a pvp aspect to pvm. :P Some spells like chiv spells show up already, so to be consistent I may as well add em all.


So what do you guys think?
That would be very interesting indeed. I suggest putting it in game and running a poll to get user feedback. If people don't like it they can voice their opinion. I think it would be neat but consider this: Champion spawn with 60 imps casting on you. You will see nothing but "in nox" all over the screen, thus obstructing you view (Think of the juka's VS meer battles how much text scrolls). You can turn it off in razor, but still.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:58 am
by Red Squirrel
Hmm yeah forgot about champ spawns actually. Or I could disable it for champ mobs, since they do have a champmob boolean value.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:04 am
by Death
Red Squirrel wrote:Hmm yeah forgot about champ spawns actually. Or I could disable it for champ mobs, since they do have a champmob boolean value.


Touchee, but there's still areas with tons of mobs that aren't a champ (Walk in doom passed the lich statues :P).

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:05 am
by Red Squirrel
Haha yeah, I bet if I check the serial of those mobs, its very low numbers from when they were first spawned. :P

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:08 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
lol Reminds me of Gothic Myths, if you were to reach the abyss of poseidon, all you'd see is "Tis Cor Por Vis" (custom spell, tidal wave) and die.
I'd suggest keeping the spell mantra for only that single AI, and make a copy that doenst says it.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:37 pm
by Red Squirrel
Its not in the AI, its in the spells. Now what I'm wondering, is if "consecrus arma" and such should be categorized as spell mantra. If yes to be consistent mobs should not say those either.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:57 pm
by Death
Red Squirrel wrote:Its not in the AI, its in the spells. Now what I'm wondering, is if "consecrus arma" and such should be categorized as spell mantra. If yes to be consistent mobs should not say those either.
Those are spell mantras yes. Magery, chivalry, necromancy and spellweaving have the mantras. Bushido and ninjitsu don't have them. I think it would look neat seeing consecrus arma above the mob's head. Would make you go "Oh crap" when you look at your 22 cold resist.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:06 pm
by Lymus
I say limit it to "higher beings", ones who may actually be able to speak common tongue and taunt you. Like Demitel, for example.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:29 pm
by dprantl
Lymus wrote:I say limit it to "higher beings", ones who may actually be able to speak common tongue and taunt you. Like Demitel, for example.
Hey, if you can cast spells you can talk just fine...

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:41 pm
by Lymus
dprantl wrote:
Lymus wrote:I say limit it to "higher beings", ones who may actually be able to speak common tongue and taunt you. Like Demitel, for example.
Hey, if you can cast spells you can talk just fine...
Yeah, but it makes more sense for an Arcane Daemon saying "Corp Por" than an Imp. You'd just assume the Arcane is more intelligent.

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monsters saying spell mantra

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:09 pm
by Nosferatu
imo unless its a human body value it shouldnt say spell mantras... monsters have their own language hence no spell mantras were made ... wisps speak a language but dont have mantras the point was were not supposed to understand them so maybe make seperate spell mantras for monsters for the spells and make up some names and we would just have to eventually figure out what they mean after seeing them for a while its like hearing it a while ud get used to it and learn em

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