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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:29 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
-Squirrel still have to add this patch to the main server-
* Demitel artifacts now have the tag "D E M I T E L" on all of them.

* Bow of Malevolence has been updated, and will only use enchanted arrows (though I forgot to send the right enchanted arrow script to Squirrel, the fix is on the end of the post Ryan).

* Almincrus now summons shadow wyrms that will instantly target you. Also, I removed shield of invulnerability from the list of stuff he drops. Instead, he has the chance of dropping the last book of arkkaza.

* All the Demitel bosses received a HP bump.

* Elemental Lords will no longer drop runic bows. The ones that were obtained before this update will still stay and considered rares.

* Elemental Lords now do 2x more damage to pets, and most of the previous artifacts it used to drop were removed. The ones staying are:
Salamandos Soul, The Void and Sylphis' Dancing Limbs.

* Added a new drop to the Elemental Lords:

Spirit of the Storms (Halberd)
Artifact Rarity 15
Use Best Weapon Skill
Hit Cold Area 100%
Hit Energy Area 100%
Hit Lightning 50%
Lower Requirements 100%
Swing Speed Increase 40%
Energy Damage 50%
Cold Damage 50%
D E M I T E L

* Added a few new monsters. That includes Death herself, mirage creatures, and few new tamables. I cant get into details, since I'm still working on the Dark Palace (Demitel's Lair) and the Mirage Desert.

* The Black Hole had some of its resists reduced. Only AI could actually damage that thing. (Squirrel might have to add the multi sucking ability to the new blackhole though)

* Malkilus no longer causes damage to any damage it takes. Instead, its speed was raised.

* The Masked Mage, Lord Khaos, Deathjester and Demitel werent added yet. I'm having trouble coding the specials on some of them, so It might take a while.

Enchanted Arrow (Just update it to this one Squirrel)

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		[Constructable]
public EnchantedArrow( int amount ) : base( 3903 )
{
Name = "Enchanted Arrow";
Hue = 1364;
Stackable = true;
Amount = amount;
}
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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:29 am
by dprantl
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:* Almincrus now summons shadow wyrms that will instantly target you.
O M G ...












W T F ...












B B Q ...

P.S. You may want to lower the rate at which he spawns these shadow wyrms...

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:37 am
by Red Squirrel
I saw that and yeah will definately be lowered lol. I'm thinking of just hard coding a limit and when he switches forms it would summon like 5, then that would be the end lol.

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:46 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
No need to lower it, just stop using mass-hit-persecond pets and its all solved. Use a chaos steed for example.

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:50 pm
by dprantl
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:No need to lower it, just stop using mass-hit-persecond pets and its all solved. Use a chaos steed for example.
I tried using just skeletal dragon summons, but there were still like 5 shadow wyrms within ~30 seconds...

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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:59 pm
by Red Squirrel
I'll have to try it with my dexxer, that might be fun, but I can tank a max of 2 shadow wyrms at a time, and that really is max, even then sometimes they pwn me lol

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:03 pm
by dprantl
I just tried using a chaos steed. Pure suicide... my chaos steed can usually knock out a shadow wyrm in 5 seconds, but even with Almincrus not targetting it, there are enough wyrms around in about 30 seconds to pwn the steed in no time. But the issue here is that if there was a team of people attacking him, they would almost immediately be swamped with shadow wyrms. The more people, the worse it is. I say it's not possible unless you spend a couple hours doing it... at least!

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:07 pm
by Red Squirrel
Yeah they're all meant to be tough but, wow lol. I'll think about what to change, probably the rate at which he summons, and limit it to a certain extent. Right now it's probably best to use a dexxer for him. I'll have to try with mine and see how it goes and if it should be changed or not.

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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:48 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
lol Beliave me or not, I could do a pseudo-solo against Almincrus. Razor macro spamming spells with a reptile slayer on shadow wyrms (with an if, so if it doenst finds wyrms, spams heal on the pet), while the other char vetted chaos steed. Took one hour or so.

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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:12 pm
by Red Squirrel
I guess the way to approach this is to have multiple people, one to DPS almincrus, the others to kill the wyrms then DPS as well for rights, when theres no wyrms.

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:33 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
Yup, I made the wyrms have only 100hp, so an ebolt or two with a slayer book should kill them. Hell, Lucifall insta kills them lol

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:45 pm
by Red Squirrel
still takes a good 5 or so shots with my admin lol, he's only at like 250 of each stat with the gm hat :P

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:45 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
lol wtf. You using consecrate and divine fury or something of that extent? They are supposed to die easily. o_O

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:47 pm
by Red Squirrel
Yeah maybe with your char that can 2 hit kill balrons. :P lol

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:41 am
by Finlander
Brunus do you actualy think before you make changes.

Go fight demitels and you know what i mean

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:26 am
by DOCTOR THUNDER
Finlander wrote:Brunus do you actualy think before you make changes.
I agree. Most of the time I get the feeling that Brunus views this shard and the players as things to use for his own amusement.

BTW Hector, was anything ever done about that elemental champ where Brunus' "friend" came in, cheated like a mofo, and stole the champ, scrolls, and skull for himself?

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:25 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
I took my own actions to prevent Mr ? from doing anything else on AoV.
And yeah, I do check, test, and analyze the changes I do. Look, blackhole was almost unkillable without AI.
And I tested every single of them, use your brains if you want to solo them, its actually quite simple.
I asked a friend to host my version of the server for me, and we got 5 guys, heres the result:

Almincrus = Medium. (Easy if you do stuff right, which obviously people here arent thinking on how to)

Black Hole = First form was a bit hard, the second was redicolous easy.

Humus = Hard depending on how you fight him (suicidal yoshis works fine)

Crystal Daemon = Hard (more hp, but still killable, not like I did any other changes about it, something I could do is reduce the chance / amount of summons it creates, since I agree its impossible to kill it while 20 dragons on you)

Blood Beast = Only hard if its a para, Ill probably ask Squirrel to remove any chances of this happening.

Lord Khaos (still in tests) = Hardcore, but quite simple to kill (just avoid his pet)

Malkilus = Way easier now that spells dont cause damage to the caster. What my guys did was quite simple: One distracted it while people tried to x-field Malk, and everyone kepting throwing greater explosion potions while with 100 enhance pots and gm alchemy while spamming fire spells. Malk was receiving damages of like 100-200 per potion, died in seconds.

So please, if you guys cant use your brains to figure ways out there to kill the bosses, just ask someone how they do it.

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:23 pm
by Finlander
Well i must say that i was pissed off as hell cause of humus, And no we werent lacking firepower 10yoshis, two tamers, one archer (i was able to chew off 300hp each hit)

And it took damm long
my fame went 15,000 --> 200
I lost like 100,000 cause of insurance
And i lost my nerves, whats the point making monster what will always no matter what you do kill you, no matter how good youre.


I was okay till i saw the loot.

Both tamers had luck suits and i think it was one of the yoshis giving final blow.
And guess what the loot was for us 3 to share?

Bst item was pile of gold (3,000)
Second best was talisman 42% snake protection




And most important thing, it wasnt fun.






And doctor, no we still havent got any refund for it, and no we havent told who the fucking moron was and no i dont even know what the fuck happened in there to be honest.


About brunus using players for his amousement, i think its fine till player itself accepts it, myself i sometimes dont like when iam being chased at SW by two admin chars and trying to fight them. But its sw anyways so i dont really care. :D



And as my finnish type posts can be hard to understand sometimes heres the same thing in nutshell:

-Humus is unfair fag.
-Brunus is good gm, he works a lot.

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Update regarding Demitel stuff.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:30 pm
by Gaiava Arkkaza
Yeah, sorry for going overboard. I though Squirrel refunded you guys for what had happened... ill meet Hector in-game and see what I can do.
About Humus... lol well, I forgot about the multi-breath part. Probably going to remove that (was designed to kill multiple pets, not players :P)

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:36 pm
by Finlander
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:was designed to kill multiple pets, not players :P)
Well i dunno what was with it but it seemed to work just the opposite, it killed all the players and not the pets, and it specialy liked me, it would be like all ten yoshis on it and it still breaths only me.



and about the refund iam online at moment dunno if i will be on tomorrow

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:50 pm
by Nosferatu
i hate losing fame its the only reason i dont play half the time cuz my fame is so low it seems pointless to sit there and re gather it lol

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:06 pm
by Red Squirrel
I'm actually thinking of making fame slighly easier to get, aparantly its way easier on OSI. I also need to verify that the double fame thing in fel actually is working. I've been playing on Runuo based shard assuming it works but never actually verified it.

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:02 pm
by dprantl
Gaiava Arkkaza wrote:I took my own actions to prevent Mr ? from doing anything else on AoV.
And yeah, I do check, test, and analyze the changes I do. Look, blackhole was almost unkillable without AI.
And I tested every single of them, use your brains if you want to solo them, its actually quite simple.
I asked a friend to host my version of the server for me, and we got 5 guys, heres the result:

Almincrus = Medium. (Easy if you do stuff right, which obviously people here arent thinking on how to)

Black Hole = First form was a bit hard, the second was redicolous easy.

Humus = Hard depending on how you fight him (suicidal yoshis works fine)

Crystal Daemon = Hard (more hp, but still killable, not like I did any other changes about it, something I could do is reduce the chance / amount of summons it creates, since I agree its impossible to kill it while 20 dragons on you)

Blood Beast = Only hard if its a para, Ill probably ask Squirrel to remove any chances of this happening.

Lord Khaos (still in tests) = Hardcore, but quite simple to kill (just avoid his pet)

Malkilus = Way easier now that spells dont cause damage to the caster. What my guys did was quite simple: One distracted it while people tried to x-field Malk, and everyone kepting throwing greater explosion potions while with 100 enhance pots and gm alchemy while spamming fire spells. Malk was receiving damages of like 100-200 per potion, died in seconds.

So please, if you guys cant use your brains to figure ways out there to kill the bosses, just ask someone how they do it.
You know, that's funny. My list would be just the opposite:

Crystal Demon - Easy
Humus - Easy, although it takes ages now that it has uber HP
Blood Beast - Easy, including Para
Almincrus - Damn hard; I suppose if I double-cliented it may not be, but I hate double-clienting... just feels wrong
Blackhole - Haven't tried it since it changed, but before: First form, Medium; second form, are you kidding?
Lord Khaos - Dunno yet

I'm usually pretty good at using my brains when trying to solo stuff :P I'm sure with 5 people they would all be easy though...

Forgot Malkilus - Hard: He's easy until he starts throwing the uber reapers that set your stam to 0. Then he likes to stand in the middle of like 10 of them and spam heal on himself :x

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:26 pm
by Red Squirrel
black hole 2nd form is probably the hardest of em all currently. You'd think humus would be, with his 5k breath, but pets seem to take less damage from it. I've changed up almincrus a bit, will be changed in next update. I just made him hit way harder melee/magic wise but summon less shadow wyrms.

The next update is huge file wise so I've been holding it off for a bit to make sure all is working properly and such, locally.

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:02 am
by dprantl
Finlander wrote:And i lost my nerves, whats the point making monster what will always no matter what you do kill you, no matter how good youre.
I fully agree with this. It reminds me of those old coin-op games where no matter how good you were, every now and again the boss would just decide to kick ass and you died. It was purely rigged so you would need to keep putting in money if you really wanted to win (i.e. Street Smart was one just off the top of my head). Was frustrating as hell. There's no reason for this on a freeshard though...

And it's not because humus has multi-firebreath. Even with single, he is guaranteed to do one firebreath every so many seconds, which guarantees that someone _will_ die at that point even if it was God themselves playing a non-admin char with the best possible gear.

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