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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:10 pm
by d.
This is not me complaining, just simply pointing out something I have discovered. When a "rare" masterpiece resource drops on a high end supreme, it is "healthy pearl" I'd say 95% of the time. There are many "rare" level masterpiece resources, but I have never heard of people attaining most of them.
I know there are a few others out there that collect masterpiece resources as heavily as I do, does anyone else confirm that healthy pearls drop nearly all the time on high end supremes?
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:15 pm
by Death
d. wrote:This is not me complaining, just simply pointing out something I have discovered. When a "rare" masterpiece resource drops on a high end supreme, it is "healthy pearl" I'd say 95% of the time. There are many "rare" level masterpiece resources, but I have never heard of people attaining most of them.
I know there are a few others out there that collect masterpiece resources as heavily as I do, does anyone else confirm that healthy pearls drop nearly all the time on high end supremes?
It's possible you may be right, I'll check it out later.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:33 pm
by dprantl
I've gotten a few healthy pearls. I think it's the only rare I have.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:31 pm
by d.
dprantl wrote:I've gotten a few healthy pearls. I think it's the only rare I have.
yea, the drop rate is correct (they are supposed to be rare) but i think when the lootpack checks off to see if it "hits" dropping a rare resource, it drops healthy pearls most of the time, and healthy pearls are pretty much useless on a wep (10 points for 1 life when life is easy to hit the 130 cap anyways is a waste).
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:35 pm
by Death
d. wrote:dprantl wrote:I've gotten a few healthy pearls. I think it's the only rare I have.
yea, the drop rate is correct (they are supposed to be rare) but i think when the lootpack checks off to see if it "hits" dropping a rare resource, it drops healthy pearls most of the time, and healthy pearls are pretty much useless on a wep (10 points for 1 life when life is easy to hit the 130 cap anyways is a waste).
I just checked and it's twice in a list of 30, which is intentional so 2/30 times it will be healthy pearls. The rest of the time it can be one of the mage scrolls, totem of eradication, orb of power etc etc. In the code everything looks normal but I'll check to see what's happening on live to see if it's dropping on the healthy pearls due to a default.
Archived topic from AOV, old topic ID:4062, old post ID:25947
Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:56 pm
by d.
Death wrote:d. wrote:dprantl wrote:I've gotten a few healthy pearls. I think it's the only rare I have.
yea, the drop rate is correct (they are supposed to be rare) but i think when the lootpack checks off to see if it "hits" dropping a rare resource, it drops healthy pearls most of the time, and healthy pearls are pretty much useless on a wep (10 points for 1 life when life is easy to hit the 130 cap anyways is a waste).
I just checked and it's twice in a list of 30, which is intentional so 2/30 times it will be healthy pearls. The rest of the time it can be one of the mage scrolls, totem of eradication, orb of power etc etc. In the code everything looks normal but I'll check to see what's happening on live to see if it's dropping on the healthy pearls due to a default.
RARELY have I gotten one of the other "rare" ones. I've gotten a few of the different "mage scroll" ones that are rare, but healthy pearls seem to come up ALL THE TIME. That is odd that all the code looks fine, because I have fought many many many high end mobs and I come up with something totally different. It will be interesting to hear what you find out when you test it =].
Archived topic from AOV, old topic ID:4062, old post ID:25948
Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:06 pm
by Death
d. wrote:
RARELY have I gotten one of the other "rare" ones. I've gotten a few of the different "mage scroll" ones that are rare, but healthy pearls seem to come up ALL THE TIME. That is odd that all the code looks fine, because I have fought many many many high end mobs and I come up with something totally different. It will be interesting to hear what you find out when you test it =].
It's possible live server does not have the same scripts I have as I change things locally on my own test server and send the changes over to red to publish to TC1 then to live. I changed around the drops for the masterpiece system awhile back in order to make the list drops more efficient than they were before. It's possible I didn't send these changes to red or he did not receive all of them (testing will confirm this).
Either that or there's a condition which is causing the case to favor the healthy pearls in lieu of the 30 other possibilities (Or it could be really bad luck that it is falling on the same case).
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:48 pm
by Nexus Graveheart
Well, I can back this up as well. I'm not entirely sure I have any other rare drops. But I can confirm I have 14 healthy pearls. I'll have to scan the list and compare it to my collection, but I know I have that many pearls. And I'm sure that the majority of those (at least 10+) were recieved from high end supremes.
So either many of us have been extremely unlucky and gotten high amounts of the pearls (instead of occasionally getting other stuff as well), or something in the numbers is dropping them in the loot packs more than the others.
Personally, I think it's a glitch. Something is favoring these drops over the others. Maybe I'll log on to test and do a run of supreme balrons (and maybe some other monsters), see what I get in regards to resources. I'll post it later tonight.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:55 pm
by Red Squirrel
I just checked and it seems ok, but could some of you confirm on test? Could very well be the code is not the same though it should be as last time I did a small update I just pushed the entire script folder to the server.
In my code it's only listed once.
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switch ( Utility.Random( 17 ))
{
case 0: bc.PackItem ( new CapturedDarkSoul( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 1: bc.PackItem ( new CapturedMageSoul( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 2: bc.PackItem ( new CapturedLightSoul( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 3: bc.PackItem ( new ConflagrantArrow( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 4: bc.PackItem ( new RagingThunderstorm( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 5: bc.PackItem ( new BlazingInferno( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 6: bc.PackItem ( new PiercingFrostbite( Utility.Random(1,3) ));break;
case 7: bc.PackItem ( new SpeedPearls( Utility.Random(1,3) )); break;
case 8: bc.PackItem ( new EtherealShielding( Utility.Random(1,2) ));break;
case 9: bc.PackItem ( new EtherealWeaponry( Utility.Random(1,2) ));break;
case 10: bc.PackItem ( new ScalesOfBalance()); break;
case 11: bc.PackItem ( new OrbOfElements()); break;
case 12: bc.PackItem ( new HealthyPearls( Utility.Random(1,2) )); break;
case 13: bc.PackItem ( new HerbsOfStamina( Utility.Random(1,2) )); break;
case 14: bc.PackItem ( new PotionOfRepair( Utility.Random(1,3) )); break;
case 15: bc.PackItem ( new EssenceOfDispelling( Utility.Random(1,3) )); break;
case 16: bc.PackItem ( new ReagentPowder( Utility.Random(1,4))); break;
}
Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:59 pm
by d.
Nexus Graveheart wrote:Well, I can back this up as well. I'm not entirely sure I have any other rare drops. But I can confirm I have 14 healthy pearls. I'll have to scan the list and compare it to my collection, but I know I have that many pearls. And I'm sure that the majority of those (at least 10+) were recieved from high end supremes.
So either many of us have been extremely unlucky and gotten high amounts of the pearls (instead of occasionally getting other stuff as well), or something in the numbers is dropping them in the loot packs more than the others.
Personally, I think it's a glitch. Something is favoring these drops over the others. Maybe I'll log on to test and do a run of supreme balrons (and maybe some other monsters), see what I get in regards to resources. I'll post it later tonight.
Sounds almost identical to my situation. I have:
-the guiding light (ultra rare) dropped off blackhearts chests, levi arty
-scroll of mages wisdom (rare) dropped off the same blackhearts chest as the guiding light
-13 healthy pearls which all dropped off oh misc high end supremes (ancient liches, shadow wyrms etc)
The hardest thing in the world to fight: Supreme Yamandon, I've killed three of them and gotten mostly just junk resources, and an occasional healthy pearl, no other rare resources.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:10 pm
by Death
d. wrote:Supreme Yamandon, I've killed three of them and gotten mostly just junk resources, and an occasional healthy pearl, no other rare resources.
Goes by fame, not difficulty.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:14 pm
by d.
Death wrote:d. wrote:Supreme Yamandon, I've killed three of them and gotten mostly just junk resources, and an occasional healthy pearl, no other rare resources.
Goes by fame, not difficulty.
that is unfortunate, supreme yamandons are x10 harder than any other supreme I have fought, and they give some of the worst masterpiece loot =p. oh well.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:18 pm
by Nexus Graveheart
Just posted data in a new thread, I used balrons, which I believe have some of the highest fame of non-boss mobs. So it should be relevant.
Archived topic from AOV, old topic ID:4062, old post ID:25959
Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:22 pm
by d.
Nexus Graveheart wrote:Just posted data in a new thread, I used balrons, which I believe have some of the highest fame of non-boss mobs. So it should be relevant.
they have 25000 fame, which is higher than:
ancient lich
ancient wyrm
ogre lord
skeletal dragon
yamandon
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:27 pm
by Nexus Graveheart
d. wrote:Nexus Graveheart wrote:Just posted data in a new thread, I used balrons, which I believe have some of the highest fame of non-boss mobs. So it should be relevant.
they have 25000 fame, which is higher than:
ancient lich
ancient wyrm
ogre lord
skeletal dragon
yamandon
Right then. So you say your still only getting the pearls off of all these? For a second I thought it might have been a glitch with balron drops. But if your seeing the same results with all of these, then something is off.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:00 pm
by d.
Not to put any pressure on staff or anything, but I am curious as to weather or not this has been looked into or will be fixed? As of recently I have still only been getting healthy pearls off of high end supremes. It really lowers any enthusiasm for Supreme hunting when I can't even get good masterpiece stuff off them =p lol.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:24 pm
by dprantl
d. wrote:Not to put any pressure on staff or anything, but I am curious as to weather or not this has been looked into or will be fixed? As of recently I have still only been getting healthy pearls off of high end supremes. It really lowers any enthusiasm for Supreme hunting when I can't even get good masterpiece stuff off them =p lol.
Me too. I just got some healthy pearls again a few days ago. No other rare resources.
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Specific masterpiece drop
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:53 pm
by Death
The priority on the masterpiece system is low right now as preparations are being made for the shard revamp which is taking precedence over smaller changes as we are revising our coding practices to match the new system so there's a lot of planning being done.
I have taken a look at the scripts real quick and haven't seen anything in the scripts that would cause an issues. I will try to sneak in some mobile testing a bit later this weekend if I have time but I have a lot going on right now.
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