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Infekktion wrote:i decided 2 go w/this az my template...

Taming-100 (will be 110)
AnLore-100
Vet-90
Magery-100 (will be 120)
EvInt-100
Resist-100
Poison-80

it took me quite a while 2 decide on this, so im finally not asking 4 ideas...
i have a baked kitsune rite now...i may keep it, but if i dont, id replace it w/a rune beetle...my mare iz 2 b a Noxeequs...that is my long-term 4 pets...

my main ? is this:

how kan i get the most out of this charaktr??...

i also have a few other ?'s...
1. what are sum good battle strategies?
2. where would b good 2 hunt?
3. wut kan i expekt frum this char when it comes 2 champspawn?
4. iz PvP possible w/this char? (least important ?...jus kurious)
5. where kan i get a decent mage weapon??

thanx much 4 any1 that decides 2 help...

1) your main battle strategy should be "all kill", with "all guard" as a defense
2) gauntlet is great
3) probably not too good for champs, although a necrotamer can work out pretty good
4) get a tamer buddy and camp the star room
5) get swords of prosp or magi edge. SoP is a greater ToT, and easier to get than magi edge. Magi edge is an aoa.

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So I keep hearing about how Archers are the end all on this server. So what skills besides archery should I include to make a rockin archer char????

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necro mage.

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Necro mage archer :

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archery should be removed from pvp skills.

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Archers are nice, archers are NOT the best class for PvP although they can be decent, Ive about reached the cap for it. What I like about archers is that they are very balanced. I can do pretty decent in PvP, being able to kill everyone who play except for a few people I can count on one hand. And those people? They are mages. I can take most of the mages here, but some I simply cannot. A well played mage has many more options in PvP. However I think that an archer outshines them in many PvM tasks. I solo things that I watch some of these mages I cant take in PvP get WTFKAPWNT at. All in all an archer is a very versatile class, but if your looking for serious pvp, roll a mage.



-Kaiden

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Mika wrote:Archers are nice, archers are NOT the best class for PvP although they can be decent, Ive about reached the cap for it. What I like about archers is that they are very balanced. I can do pretty decent in PvP, being able to kill everyone who play except for a few people I can count on one hand. And those people? They are mages. I can take most of the mages here, but some I simply cannot. A well played mage has many more options in PvP. However I think that an archer outshines them in many PvM tasks. I solo things that I watch some of these mages I cant take in PvP get WTFKAPWNT at. All in all an archer is a very versatile class, but if your looking for serious pvp, roll a mage.



-Kaiden

Looking for a char that I can actually kill a Surpreme Solo... I can't seem to do it with my Provo Mage, I get them about half way down then run out of monsters to provo to it and they start kicking my ass...

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Colors of Wanker wrote:

Mika wrote:Archers are nice, archers are NOT the best class for PvP although they can be decent, Ive about reached the cap for it. What I like about archers is that they are very balanced. I can do pretty decent in PvP, being able to kill everyone who play except for a few people I can count on one hand. And those people? They are mages. I can take most of the mages here, but some I simply cannot. A well played mage has many more options in PvP. However I think that an archer outshines them in many PvM tasks. I solo things that I watch some of these mages I cant take in PvP get WTFKAPWNT at. All in all an archer is a very versatile class, but if your looking for serious pvp, roll a mage.



-Kaiden

Looking for a char that I can actually kill a Surpreme Solo... I can't seem to do it with my Provo Mage, I get them about half way down then run out of monsters to provo to it and they start kicking my ass...

For pvm, x5 fully trained jackals + 120 disco/music. It does the most overall DPS out of any class. You could also chose disco/tamer/necro with X5 hell hounds + discord + corpse skin.

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d. wrote:
For pvm, x5 fully trained jackals + 120 disco/music. It does the most overall DPS out of any class. You could also chose disco/tamer/necro with X5 hell hounds + discord + corpse skin.

What exactly does discord do? ANd you mean tame a hell hound and make him a 5 x gm right? Then cast corpse skin? I sorry I just never really played the Necro stuff and I know almost nothing about it... I have a WW on my Tamer, you think if he is 5x he could take one? With me helping that is...

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Colors of Wanker wrote:

d. wrote:
For pvm, x5 fully trained jackals + 120 disco/music. It does the most overall DPS out of any class. You could also chose disco/tamer/necro with X5 hell hounds + discord + corpse skin.

What exactly does discord do? ANd you mean tame a hell hound and make him a 5 x gm right? Then cast corpse skin? I sorry I just never really played the Necro stuff and I know almost nothing about it... I have a WW on my Tamer, you think if he is 5x he could take one? With me helping that is...

x5= five of them. jackals/hell hounds take 1 slot each and have pack instincts. A group of 5 of either of them does tremendous damage. Discord lowers the targets stats, skills, and resists, pretty much allowing your pack of dogs to rip through them.

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d. wrote:

Colors of Wanker wrote:

d. wrote:
For pvm, x5 fully trained jackals + 120 disco/music. It does the most overall DPS out of any class. You could also chose disco/tamer/necro with X5 hell hounds + discord + corpse skin.

What exactly does discord do? ANd you mean tame a hell hound and make him a 5 x gm right? Then cast corpse skin? I sorry I just never really played the Necro stuff and I know almost nothing about it... I have a WW on my Tamer, you think if he is 5x he could take one? With me helping that is...

x5= five of them. jackals/hell hounds take 1 slot each and have pack instincts. A group of 5 of either of them does tremendous damage. Discord lowers the targets stats, skills, and resists, pretty much allowing your pack of dogs to rip through them.

Nice.... So even a Surpreme will be hurt by them?? Say a Surprem Orge Lord?

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Colors of Wanker wrote:

d. wrote:

Colors of Wanker wrote:

What exactly does discord do? ANd you mean tame a hell hound and make him a 5 x gm right? Then cast corpse skin? I sorry I just never really played the Necro stuff and I know almost nothing about it... I have a WW on my Tamer, you think if he is 5x he could take one? With me helping that is...

x5= five of them. jackals/hell hounds take 1 slot each and have pack instincts. A group of 5 of either of them does tremendous damage. Discord lowers the targets stats, skills, and resists, pretty much allowing your pack of dogs to rip through them.

Nice.... So even a Surpreme will be hurt by them?? Say a Surprem Orge Lord?

A pack of 5 jackals fully trained + 120 disco kills a supreme ogre lord in less than 45 seconds. However, jackals and hellhounds do not have tons of life, and their resists are generally pathetic, you have to do a VERY good job healing them with aids + mage/chiv.

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As for supremes, they are very easy for an archer, never met one that gave me much issues, though I havent seen a Supreme Ancient Wyrm... Solo a few champs (besides Coon lol) and a few Demitels and supremes seem like mongbats. As for ld and his jackals.... they are insane... best damage output for 1 character Ive ever seen, but not sure it would do to well for doing other things, such as 25-50 monsters attacking you at once like a champ. If your wanting to kill 1 monster as fast as possible, the jackals are the way to go, but I wouldnt bet money on survivability for utility more a multitude of situations.

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Mika wrote:As for supremes, they are very easy for an archer, never met one that gave me much issues, though I havent seen a Supreme Ancient Wyrm... Solo a few champs (besides Coon lol) and a few Demitels and supremes seem like mongbats. As for ld and his jackals.... they are insane... best damage output for 1 character Ive ever seen, but not sure it would do to well for doing other things, such as 25-50 monsters attacking you at once like a champ. If your wanting to kill 1 monster as fast as possible, the jackals are the way to go, but I wouldnt bet money on survivability for utility more a multitude of situations.

So what skills should I apply to my Archer besides archery and tactics ofcourse.... I want to guess Chivalry and focus...

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Wanker, a good archer build is based on:
Archery
Chivalry, you only need 60-80 skill
Tactics
Anatomy
Healing

Thats your basic archer build. For pvm archery, you can add music + discord or peacemaking. Discord works really well.

You can also add necro and spirit speak, that works great for a character you pvm mostly with but also do some pvp.

I have never tried spellweaving, not sure how well those spells work.

Another option is to add a mix of taming, lore, and vet to your archer, that way you have a tank to distract the tougher monsters while you shoot them. I am sure there are more good builds, most people are more than willing to tell you what they think is the best set up.

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:Wanker, a good archer build is based on:
Archery
Chivalry, you only need 60-80 skill
Tactics
Anatomy
Healing

Thats your basic archer build. For pvm archery, you can add music + discord or peacemaking. Discord works really well.

I made an Archer with almost exactly those skills

100 Archery
100 Chivalry
100 music
100 peacmaking
50s tactics
50s anat
50s heal

SO I guess with an Orge Talisman and a pretty rocking bow I could take a Orge Lord Surpreme then?

Oh if you got a Orge Talisman and an Orge Slayer Bow does that make your damage to an orge any greater having both?

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:Wanker, a good archer build is based on:
Archery
Chivalry, you only need 60-80 skill
Tactics
Anatomy
Healing


You can also add necro and spirit speak, that works great for a character you pvm mostly with but also do some pvp.

Will Chivalry be negated or be messed up if I have Necro? I thought the more neg karma you got the better Necro works and the more posative the karma the better Chiv works. If you had both and wanted to be a Nero Archer wouldnt having Negative Karma make your chiv skill ineffective?

I got
100 Arhcery
100 Tactics
100 Necro
100 Heal
100 Spirit Speak
100 Anat

Should I go with Meditate or Focus... or Chivalry?

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Colors of Wanker wrote: Will Chivalry be negated or be messed up if I have Necro? I thought the more neg karma you got the better Necro works and the more posative the karma the better Chiv works. If you had both and wanted to be a Nero Archer wouldnt having Negative Karma make your chiv skill ineffective?

I got
100 Arhcery
100 Tactics
100 Necro
100 Heal
100 Spirit Speak
100 Anat

Should I go with Meditate or Focus... or Chivalry?

Chivalry and Necromancy are opposing skills as one deals with the way of the light while the other deals with the dark arts. If your karma is too low, your chivalry spells will be very short (For instance, consecrate weapon will last for literally 1 second). Other spells such as dispel evil and remove curse will not work but constantly fizzle, regardless of skill.

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Death wrote:
Chivalry and Necromancy are opposing skills as one deals with the way of the light while the other deals with the dark arts. If your karma is too low, your chivalry spells will be very short (For instance, consecrate weapon will last for literally 1 second). Other spells such as dispel evil and remove curse will not work but constantly fizzle, regardless of skill.

THats what I thought....

So then should I go with Med or Focus? Focus regenerates mana faster without having to use the skill correct? What would be best, 100 focus or 100 med??

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Colors of Wanker wrote:

Death wrote:
Chivalry and Necromancy are opposing skills as one deals with the way of the light while the other deals with the dark arts. If your karma is too low, your chivalry spells will be very short (For instance, consecrate weapon will last for literally 1 second). Other spells such as dispel evil and remove curse will not work but constantly fizzle, regardless of skill.

THats what I thought....

So then should I go with Med or Focus? Focus regenerates mana faster without having to use the skill correct? What would be best, 100 focus or 100 med??

No, focus regenerates stamina fast. It regenerates mana, but much slower than even passive meditation.

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Colors of Wanker wrote:

Death wrote:
Chivalry and Necromancy are opposing skills as one deals with the way of the light while the other deals with the dark arts. If your karma is too low, your chivalry spells will be very short (For instance, consecrate weapon will last for literally 1 second). Other spells such as dispel evil and remove curse will not work but constantly fizzle, regardless of skill.

THats what I thought....

So then should I go with Med or Focus? Focus regenerates mana faster without having to use the skill correct? What would be best, 100 focus or 100 med??

Meditation gives you 1 MR per 10 points. GM meditation is essentially 10 MR. If you are to choose meditation, you cannot wear any metal or studded armors unless it has the "mage armor" property. If you do, you will be penalized for your regeneration.

Battle Focus (Most commonly known as "focus") gives you 1 MR per 20 points of focus. GM focus is essentially 5 MR. Focus differs from meditation in that it rewards stamina regeneration (GM = 10 Stamina Regeneration) as well as basic MR. The mana regeneration awarded by the focus skill is half of that obtained by meditation. Unlike meditation, focus is not affected by metal armors. Your 5 MR from gm focus is not reduced by wearing metal armors as focus is a warrior skill.

Most players choose meditation and leather armors for spell casting as metals do not provide any additional bonuses as of UO AOS (When they botched the previously balanced armor system)

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I went with med... Almost 7x gm with him just need about 8 points in anat...
As of right now...
100 Archery
100 Necro
100 Spirit
100 Heal
100 Tactics
100 Med
92 Anat Soon to be 100 as well!


Oh and damn he is alot of fun playing...

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if you replaced med with resist, that would be a good pvp template. If you are looking for mostly pvm, replace Necro, SS, and Med with chiv, music, and disco. Really, try it on tc and you will see a huge difference in the damage you can do to monsters with disco, EoO, and consc weapon.

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:if you replaced med with resist, that would be a good pvp template. If you are looking for mostly pvm, replace Necro, SS, and Med with chiv, music, and disco. Really, try it on tc and you will see a huge difference in the damage you can do to monsters with disco, EoO, and consc weapon.

Well with 3 accounts to play with I think I can definatly do that on another char!!!!

This char is so much fun, I can't tell you how much I enjoy animating skeletal dragons and liches.... SO much fun! You can realy do alot of damage to monsters with a Necromancer. I bet I can defiantly solo a Surpreme with this char as soon as I run into one!

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