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A friend and I have been talking about the way armor is handled in UO. And have come to the conclusion that it's WRONG. There's no way leather armor is going to give more protection than plate. So we came up with the idea to have each type of armor have base stat ranges with crafting skill and material bonuses added.

As an example: Platemail - Phy 4-9, Fire 1-6, Cold 1-6,
Poison 4-9, Elec. 1-4 (Metal+Elec.= NOT GOOD)
Then you add in bonuses like Material Used, Runic Yes/No, and Crafting Skill Bonus(Including Exceptional Item).


"THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST EXAMPLES !"

And armor drops would use just the base stats and a random chance for magic bonuses (ie. LRC,Regens, ect.) Then players can enhance like always adding the above mentioned bonuses.

Making player made armor the most sought after armor. Creating an actual in game economy. Where players who like to craft can supply those who don't.

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Good general idea there mate.

What's the highest resist # right now? From uo.stratics.com, 7 is the highest an individual resist can have from base values. How many different types of armor are out there:

Neck
Leather, Studded, Plate

Legs
Leather, Studded, Ring, Chain, Plate, Bone, Dragon

Head
Cloth Hats, Leather, Chain, Plate, Bone, Dragon

Hands
Leather, Studded, Ring, Plate, Bone, Dragon

Body
Leather, Studded, Ring, Chain, Plate, Bone, Dragon

Arms
Leather, Studded, Ring, Plate, Bone, Dragon

Maybe change the base values to have a max of 10 (depending on material)? Maybe also bring in a Dexterity boost or loss depending upon type as well (not as one of the properties, as a generic crafting line)? Maybe the weaker armors providing more elemental resists and the metal armors providing more physical resists? Maybe the items could act as a 'set' when paired together, to bring back that old "Light-Archer" armor folks were using back when armor had a dex penalty and only a 'physical resist' value.

Actually, I wouldn't mind going back to that system in a fashion. Have armors provide just physical resist, but have the Magic Resist skill play a role in your elemental resists/magical damage mitigation/debuff time deduction. Pretty much what it used to be + what it is + what it is.

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Ya, I'd be in favor of fixing the armor system as it makes no sense these days. Nobody wants plate or bone, it's all medeable hide enhanced leather which gives high resists. Plate, scale and bone need an upgrade to convince people to actually wear it.

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Yeah I'm for that as well. I also want to make dragon scales do something special. My thinking is making them runic to a certain extent.

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Red Squirrel wrote:Yeah I'm for that as well. I also want to make dragon scales do something special. My thinking is making them runic to a certain extent.

Ya I liked that idea as well. Making the armor give bonuses similar to heartwood on top of the base for each scale type (Like red giving base fire).

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personally, I never liked the leather armors having more resists than metal. Yeah I know, barbed hides come from dragons and such... but isnt it the scales that do the most protection?

How about a new metal, THUNDERITE, with the color of seizure pink and it makes your balls grow big.

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:personally, I never liked the leather armors having more resists than metal. Yeah I know, barbed hides come from dragons and such... but isnt it the scales that do the most protection?

How about a new metal, THUNDERITE, with the color of seizure pink and it makes your balls grow big.

lol

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:personally, I never liked the leather armors having more resists than metal. Yeah I know, barbed hides come from dragons and such... but isnt it the scales that do the most protection?

How about a new metal, THUNDERITE, with the color of seizure pink and it makes your balls grow big.

Ya it's the scales that protect the dragon from the elements such as heat or cold. The hides underneath are just an added layer of protection.

Platemail and scales should be the highest rated of the blacksmith armors. Bone should be the highest rated of tailors (Remember old style daemon bone armor? That stuff was great).

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What if only the metal armors gave stat increases as a base ability, with the other modifiers still being applied as the "point system" does now? (like you can get 6 (or is it 8) mods on a piece of armor)

That would definitely make it desirable over leathers for melee. That, or drastically reduce the resists leathers give, but increase the mods on them.

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Minky wrote:What if only the metal armors gave stat increases as a base ability, with the other modifiers still being applied as the "point system" does now? (like you can get 6 (or is it 8) mods on a piece of armor)

That would definitely make it desirable over leathers for melee. That, or drastically reduce the resists leathers give, but increase the mods on them.

Scale armor is the hardest to make, hence why the bonuses would be best suited for scale armor.

Platemail is the heaviest and strongest so it makes sense that platemail should have the best resists and absorb more damage than leather (Both magically and physically).

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Pshhhhhh

On Plastic Man I wear Platemail Haidate.

It has 22 Cold resist and 33 Posiin resist.

Platemail ftw.

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