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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:05 pm
by newjet323
Many people do not realize that they need to accept Jesus Christ into their lives so they can go to Heaven when they die.

This will explain http://www.ThankYouJesusChrist.blogspot.com

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:16 pm
by Chris Vogel
I wasn’t sure whether to delete this one or the one in Anything Goes, but you definitely don’t need both.

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:45 pm
by scherzo
newjet323 wrote: accept Jesus Christ into their lives so they can go to Heaven when they die. 

:lol:

and what about when they live?


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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:54 pm
by manadren
You know, I've always thought that Jesus Christ was a really cool guy with a few good ideas. Then his buddies had to go and ruin everything by calling him the son of god.

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:28 pm
by Bookworm
Chris Vogel wrote: I wasn’t sure whether to delete this one or the one in Anything Goes, but you definitely don’t need both.
Yes, this section is the best spot for it, although I have my doubts about the general effectiveness of spamming the gospel.

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:39 pm
by Clueless
lol spamming the gospel. that just sounds funny.

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:41 pm
by scherzo
Bookworm wrote:
Chris Vogel wrote: I wasn’t sure whether to delete this one or the one in Anything Goes, but you definitely don’t need both.
Yes, this section is the best spot for it, although I have my doubts about the general effectiveness of spamming the gospel.

It's like that kid tossing starfish back into the ocean at low-tide: - Nicky Gumbel

it matters for the ones that get saved :ph34r:



:nana:

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:01 pm
by Red Squirrel
Good thread but I would have at least took the time to register the domain, blogspot stuff usually gets deleted on sight. Consider the domain fee the money you'd put in the offering plate. :D

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:13 pm
by Reaper
scherzo wrote:
newjet323 wrote: accept Jesus Christ into their lives so they can go to Heaven when they die. 

:lol:

and what about when they live?
I thought was the point. . . :P

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:33 pm
by Stasi
newjet323 wrote: Many people do not realize that they need to accept Jesus Christ into their lives so they can go to Heaven when they die. 

This will explain http://www.ThankYouJesusChrist.blogspot.com
Many people do not realize that they need to accept Allah, and the teachings of his prophet, Mohammed, in order to reach paradise.

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:14 pm
by Reaper
But mines better because I said so.

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:50 pm
by Stasi
الله أكبر

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:44 pm
by Italiano
Chris Vogel wrote: I wasn’t sure whether to delete this one or the one in Anything Goes, but you definitely don’t need both.
You are absolutely right! Dying without the Lord and Saviour will send us to an Eternal Hell.....and yes, everyone.....did you hear that.....everyone.....no matter what religion has to accept the Lord....before Death......its not about Religion....its about Salvation.....Praise the Lord.....there is a small pecentage of Christians....Italiana

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:23 pm
by Stasi
Ah, the exclusive club where being born into the right time and place is what largely will determine one's salvation and reunion with a supposedly just and merciful God who supposedly loves all of His children.

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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:00 pm
by Italiano
newjet323 wrote: Many people do not realize that they need to accept Jesus Christ into their lives so they can go to Heaven when they die. 

This will explain http://www.ThankYouJesusChrist.blogspot.com
The most of the people better stand up and smell the roses....I think its Romans 10:8....If they confess with they mouth, Jesus,...praise the Lord for your witnessing; we need more people like you...Italiana

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:23 pm
by Shinizo
It's not just about accepting Jesus before you die just so you can get into heaven. That sounds selfish. You need to read more about your religion before you can say what you think you are.

Besides, I'm sure Hell is like summer all year long. Girls in Bikinis, muscular men for the ladies. Satan has the life...of course, I forgot to mention the water is actually fire and the sand is needles, but beyond the tremendous pain, it's kind of fun playing volleyball until you have to jump and slide to hit the ball to avoid it popping.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:31 pm
by Reaper
Shinizo wrote: it's kind of fun playing volleyball until you have to jump and slide to hit the ball to avoid it popping.
And when it does pop you have to make a new one, useing your skin.

But I'm in the group that doesn't believe it has real fire.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:43 pm
by Red Squirrel
Hell is like Florida, might be ok to visit it for a bit, on those super cold days, but you would not want to be there forever. :D


Random joke:

There was a great tragedy at the hockey rink and many fans who were unsaved got killed in the explosion due to a Zamboni gas leak and were sent to hell. Satan saw they were happy, and not wanting people to be happy in hell, raised the heat. They were even more happy, being from Canada, the heat was a great change from all the cold. So satan decided to be even more evil, and turned up the A/C to the point that all hell froze over. Still, not only were they happy, but they were celebrating. So satan decided to ask "why are you people so happy?" And one responded "If hell froze over, it must mean Toronto won the standley cup!"

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:46 pm
by Reaper
Red Squirrel wrote: Hell is like Florida, might be ok to visit it for a bit, on those super cold days, but you would not want to be there forever. :D


Random joke:

There was a great tragedy at the hockey rink and many fans who were unsaved got killed in the explosion due to a Zamboni gas leak and were sent to hell.  Satan saw they were happy, and not wanting people to be happy in hell, raised the heat.  They were even more happy, being from Canada, the heat was a great change from all the cold.  So satan decided to be even more evil, and turned up the A/C to the point that all hell froze over.  Still, not only were they happy, but they were celebrating.  So satan decided to ask "why are you people so happy?"  And one responded "If hell froze over, it must mean Toronto won the standley cup!"
Toronto must suck. Of course, St. Louis Blues aren't that great either. But they're getting better at least.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:47 pm
by Stasi
Reaper wrote:
Shinizo wrote: it's kind of fun playing volleyball until you have to jump and slide to hit the ball to avoid it popping.
And when it does pop you have to make a new one, useing your skin.

But I'm in the group that doesn't believe it has real fire.
I never was either. A lot of frightening imagery has been used throughout history to depict Hell as a place full of monsters, fire, and so on. Even the Catholic Church came out and said that Satan is not some horned monstrosity, he is a man. When I was religious, it was taught that the torment of being in out of Heaven is more about the guilt of what one did in life and the knowledge of what could have been should better choices have been made. Then again, I was LDS and we believed that Hell (or the Outer Darkness) itself was reserved for those who committed the ultimate betrayal - being given the knowledge (not just faith or belief, but the kind of knowledge someone like Moses would possess) of God's Truth and making the concious decision to work against it - not a place that would be heavily populated.... Being outside of Heaven would typically mean being in either the Telestial Kingdom (the lowest of the three levels of glory), which is where murderers, etc. go, or being in the Terrestrial Kingdom - otherwise good people who upon being given the necessary teachings of the gospel decided not to accept it. The thing I like about the LDS church that most others don't preach is that one can be offered salvation after they die - which means that someone who never heard of Jesus will be given the fair opportunity to accept the gospel in death, rather than go to Hell out of an unjust technicality like so many other Christians preach. It also means that Christ, in His ultimate mercy and just character can tell whether or not individual A had as fair a chance to accept the gospel as individual B, and mete out justice and opportunity accordingly. An individual, in addition to accept Christ as their Saviour would have to make a strong effort to live by Christ's teachings (and those of the Prophets) in order to achieve Celestial glory. In the LDS church, accepting Christ as the Saviour and living in a decent manner, in accordance with Christ's teachings are essentially one in the same.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:51 pm
by Red Squirrel
Reaper wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: Hell is like Florida, might be ok to visit it for a bit, on those super cold days, but you would not want to be there forever. :D


Random joke:

There was a great tragedy at the hockey rink and many fans who were unsaved got killed in the explosion due to a Zamboni gas leak and were sent to hell.  Satan saw they were happy, and not wanting people to be happy in hell, raised the heat.  They were even more happy, being from Canada, the heat was a great change from all the cold.  So satan decided to be even more evil, and turned up the A/C to the point that all hell froze over.  Still, not only were they happy, but they were celebrating.  So satan decided to ask "why are you people so happy?"  And one responded "If hell froze over, it must mean Toronto won the standley cup!"
Toronto must suck. Of course, St. Louis Blues aren't that great either. But they're getting better at least.

I don't really follow hockey but from what I hear Toronto has been horrible in the past years. I don't even think they MADE the playoffs. At least Montreal can do that. (sure they loose the first game but.... lol)


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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:52 pm
by Shinizo
Stasi wrote:
Reaper wrote:
Shinizo wrote: it's kind of fun playing volleyball until you have to jump and slide to hit the ball to avoid it popping.
And when it does pop you have to make a new one, useing your skin.

But I'm in the group that doesn't believe it has real fire.
I never was either. A lot of frightening imagery has been used throughout history to depict Hell as a place full of monsters, fire, and so on. Even the Catholic Church came out and said that Satan is not some horned monstrosity, he is a man. When I was religious, it was taught that the torment of being in out of Heaven is more about the guilt of what one did in life and the knowledge of what could have been should better choices have been made. Then again, I was LDS and we believed that Hell (or the Outer Darkness) itself was reserved for those who committed the ultimate betrayal - being given the knowledge (not just faith or belief, but the kind of knowledge someone like Moses would possess) of God's Truth and making the concious decision to work against it - not a place that would be heavily populated.... Being outside of Heaven would typically mean being in either the Telestial Kingdom (the lowest of the three levels of glory), which is where murderers, etc. go, or being in the Terrestrial Kingdom - otherwise good people who upon being given the necessary teachings of the gospel decided not to accept it. The thing I like about the LDS church that most others don't preach is that one can be offered salvation after they die - which means that someone who never heard of Jesus will be given the fair opportunity to accept the gospel in death, rather than go to Hell out of an unjust technicality like so many other Christians preach. It also means that Christ, in His ultimate mercy and just character can tell whether or not individual A had as fair a chance to accept the gospel as individual B, and mete out justice and opportunity accordingly. An individual, in addition to accept Christ as their Saviour would have to make a strong effort to live by Christ's teachings (and those of the Prophets) in order to achieve Celestial glory. In the LDS church, accepting Christ as the Saviour and living in a decent manner, in accordance with Christ's teachings are essentially one in the same.

I've always thought of Heaven and Hell generally close to the same. However, hell would have demons (which would be angels in hell) and Satan and have somewhat the same layout as heaven, except it wouldn't be the same as heaven. Sort of like a torment thing Satan will do to you to let you know what heaven would look like, but how you can't have it? Who knows.


I always thought heaven to be a place where you are surrounded by the people you know and the people who want to make their precense known to you, also. But everyone knows you're there and such. Doesn't make much sense, but I don't see hell has a fire-ridden dark, damp empty place and heaven as a shiney light thing, even though the bible describes it as such, I think God just did that to blind the people from what heaven really was.


I think heaven to be something the same as Hell, since Satan wanted to be God, basically. So he copies God, except does it his own way.


Twisted way of thinking it, I guess.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:58 pm
by Reaper
Stasi wrote:
I never was either.  A lot of frightening imagery has been used throughout history to depict Hell as a place full of monsters, fire, and so on.  Even the Catholic Church came out and said that Satan is not some horned monstrosity, he is a man.  When I was religious, it was taught that the torment of being in out of Heaven is more about the guilt of what one did in life and the knowledge of what could have been should better choices have been made. 
Yes, I either read somewhere or heard on the radio (or both) that when the word "fire" is used in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, it is almost always depicting guilt or torment, not a real fire.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:11 pm
by Stasi
Shinizo wrote:
Stasi wrote:
Reaper wrote:
And when it does pop you have to make a new one, useing your skin.

But I'm in the group that doesn't believe it has real fire.
I never was either. A lot of frightening imagery has been used throughout history to depict Hell as a place full of monsters, fire, and so on. Even the Catholic Church came out and said that Satan is not some horned monstrosity, he is a man. When I was religious, it was taught that the torment of being in out of Heaven is more about the guilt of what one did in life and the knowledge of what could have been should better choices have been made. Then again, I was LDS and we believed that Hell (or the Outer Darkness) itself was reserved for those who committed the ultimate betrayal - being given the knowledge (not just faith or belief, but the kind of knowledge someone like Moses would possess) of God's Truth and making the concious decision to work against it - not a place that would be heavily populated.... Being outside of Heaven would typically mean being in either the Telestial Kingdom (the lowest of the three levels of glory), which is where murderers, etc. go, or being in the Terrestrial Kingdom - otherwise good people who upon being given the necessary teachings of the gospel decided not to accept it. The thing I like about the LDS church that most others don't preach is that one can be offered salvation after they die - which means that someone who never heard of Jesus will be given the fair opportunity to accept the gospel in death, rather than go to Hell out of an unjust technicality like so many other Christians preach. It also means that Christ, in His ultimate mercy and just character can tell whether or not individual A had as fair a chance to accept the gospel as individual B, and mete out justice and opportunity accordingly. An individual, in addition to accept Christ as their Saviour would have to make a strong effort to live by Christ's teachings (and those of the Prophets) in order to achieve Celestial glory. In the LDS church, accepting Christ as the Saviour and living in a decent manner, in accordance with Christ's teachings are essentially one in the same.

I've always thought of Heaven and Hell generally close to the same. However, hell would have demons (which would be angels in hell) and Satan and have somewhat the same layout as heaven, except it wouldn't be the same as heaven. Sort of like a torment thing Satan will do to you to let you know what heaven would look like, but how you can't have it? Who knows.


I always thought heaven to be a place where you are surrounded by the people you know and the people who want to make their precense known to you, also. But everyone knows you're there and such. Doesn't make much sense, but I don't see hell has a fire-ridden dark, damp empty place and heaven as a shiney light thing, even though the bible describes it as such, I think God just did that to blind the people from what heaven really was.


I think heaven to be something the same as Hell, since Satan wanted to be God, basically. So he copies God, except does it his own way.


Twisted way of thinking it, I guess.

Interesting way of looking at it. I've always viewed Heaven as a place like earth, in that there are objects, trees, rivers, etc., just that the eco system and society operates without contention - where everyone who's made it there remembers from their earthly life, and learns from what the Lord teaches in Heaven, isn't 'good' because they can't be evil, but rather the trueness of goodness is made so clear that whether or not a person can choose to be evil in Heaven is moot - no one there would want to.

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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:13 pm
by Stasi
Reaper wrote:
Stasi wrote:
I never was either.  A lot of frightening imagery has been used throughout history to depict Hell as a place full of monsters, fire, and so on.  Even the Catholic Church came out and said that Satan is not some horned monstrosity, he is a man.  When I was religious, it was taught that the torment of being in out of Heaven is more about the guilt of what one did in life and the knowledge of what could have been should better choices have been made. 
Yes, I either read somewhere or heard on the radio (or both) that when the word "fire" is used in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, it is almost always depicting guilt or torment, not a real fire.
Yes. And if you look at it all from a historical perspective, only recently in Christianity's history have so many people been literate. Therefore, where written words were useless, graphic depictions of certain concepts made more sense - and the prevailing images were those that were the most effective at eliciting fear of evil and a desire to be good.

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