Come unto me

Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:05 am

"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't
exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would
there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither
suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all of
these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want
to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the
shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with
long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and
unkempt.

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to
the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a
barber. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did,
there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like
that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! " answered the barber. " What happens, is, people
do not come to me. "

"Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why
there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

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Clueless · Post by **Clueless** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:13 am

so true

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:37 am

Maybe God’s just a sadist.

(Hopefully the customer has many barbers to choose from so he can take his money elsewhere.)

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:49 am

that's about the crappiest analogy i've ever heard...

you go to a barber, get your hair cut, done, finished...nothing more.

you go to church, pray, submit yourself, then your son dies (pain), then you get robbed (pain), then you watch as thousands of people die from a natural disaster (pain)...

but you know what? your hair still looks great...

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Mr Smith · Post by **Mr Smith** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:01 pm

EXACTLY!!!! I live in the bible belt, the people that go to church have the hardest lives. My grandma has went to church all her life, she has had it so bad. Ok now take a look at some movie stars, they live great lives up in the hollywood hills and most of them are athiest. Think about it.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:14 pm

Difference is the athiest's end up in hell when they die, while the people who had a hard live, but lived for God (and believe they're sinners and that jesus died for our sins, that's the key) will go to heaven.

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000 · Post by **000** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:36 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Difference is the athiest's end up in hell when they die, while the people who had a hard live, but lived for God (and believe they're sinners and that jesus died for our sins, that's the key) will go to heaven.

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:07 pm

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

I'm just gonna leave this thread now. *snigger*

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Mr Smith · Post by **Mr Smith** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:17 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Difference is the athiest's end up in hell when they die, while the people who had a hard live, but lived for God (and believe they're sinners and that jesus died for our sins, that's the key) will go to heaven.

You've got a good point, but ahhh nevermind. I'm not very good on this subjuct.

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:19 pm

what your little story says, red, is that if you go to god, then your life will be easy...that is simply not true. crappy analogy.

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Clueless · Post by **Clueless** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:06 pm

you're life wont always be easy, but if you go to god then he'll help you through it

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:44 am

it's psychological. i think god is akin to a really good friend that you can talk about anything with and get things off of your chest.

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:50 am

I think it was either my old Ensoniq Soundscape or SoundBlaster Pro that came with an artificially intelligent voice synth program called 'Dr. Sbaitso', which would respond to statements and questions as a therapist might, based on words you use and sentence structure. If everyone had Dr. Sbaitso, they wouldn't need God!

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:11 pm

I have about 60 sermon MP3's on my server, I should randomly post some here for fun.

No seriously, I have that many. I do sound at our church and the HDD there was getting full.

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:11 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: I have about 60 sermon MP3's on my server, I should randomly post some here for fun.

You had better not listen to them for fun.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:43 pm

No I heard them already anyway. I could warp voices and stuff though.

Or I can find the spots were they bang against the pulpit. Easy to find just by looking at the wave form.

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:47 pm

some people listen to fiction, i prefer to read it.

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tinkerbell435 · Post by **tinkerbell435** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:25 pm

ok i have so much to say on this subject but even though its pointless because once people belive in something they belive it and they wont care what I say but anyways here goes....what fragged one said about red saying life will be easy...an analogy is supose to make you belive not always true...like every cloud has a silver lineing well thats not true casue sometimes bad things just keep happening....and going to church dosent make you a higher beliver in god...it just means you have more time on your hands then some or some people dont want to be with all those holy rollers who think that you have to go to church to belive in god blah blah blah and going to church dosent mean anything its wether or not you pray or you sin or you belive...and people who don't really belive they just say they do wont get anything from god and you cant expect it you have to really want it for a good cause or really need it or something like that.....but thats just my opinnion and you guys are totally of subject

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:08 pm

exactly, it's a crappy analogy.

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Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:56 pm

I didn't think this would start over just from that Red.

But here we go agian.

http://www.algonet.se/~tourtel/hovind_semi...nar_part4b.html

http://www.discovercreation.org/newlet/Jul...gust%202000.htm

Everyone should read this book. I don't care who you are, you should read it.

Edit: If you want more of these just say.

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Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:59 pm

Reaper wrote:
Everyone should read this book. I don't care who you are, you should read it.

Summerise it in 4 lines and I'll consider reading it.

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Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:09 pm

An atheist with a degree in law (Yale) interviews 13 experts to find out whether or not the accounts of Jesus in the Bible are accurate and reliable. When he finished the interviews he was a Christian.

You could also just go to the site and read it yourself.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:49 pm

I think I heard that story. Impressive stuff.

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Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:59 pm

It's a great book.

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