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New members now go through a spam screening system and those who fall in the category of spammer are automaticly banned, and their IP is automaticly blocked.

Did this at Iceteks too, though there the system is a bit better since the post is put in the moderation queue, but for some reason I could not figure out how to make it do that here, so instead they get an error that files are missing, then when they click somewhere else, the IP block kicks in with a message saying they were classified as a spammer.

There's also some checking for trolling, but it's very basic, the most concentrated issue is spam and not trolling, but the system should also catch obvious trolls like those that post something full of swearing etc...

Don't worry, this only applies to new members. Spammers follow the same old patterns so it's really easy to detect 99.9% if they're a potential spammer or not, and probably about 95% if the post is spam or not. Though I rather have a false negative then a false positive so this certainly does not mean you won't see spam, it just means you'll see less.

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Your system is a is way off base Mr. Red. I got banned and classified as a spammer, on Friday as you may recall. You then realized your mistake and corrected it. A spammer is someone who signs up just to post an ad. The closest thing I did to actual spamming was link to another forum site, but I didn't even promote it. I just mentioned it, that's all. I hope that this kind of thing does not happen again. I think you'd be better off just having your admins look for the spam rather than some mindless software.

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Well the system is still in "test" mode the only way to really tweak it is to have in setup in a real life environment. I just keep a close eye on the Scada alarms and check what users are classified as spammers. The system is written to be very strict because of the large ammount of spammers here. Posting a link probably did it, since if I recall a link gives like 10 points. But you're safe to do it now since you're out of the "danger" zone. The filtering process is only effective after a certain point since most spammers only sign up for the sole purpose of spamming.

Actually one thing I was thinking of us trying to impliment a bayse type filter, but that would require quite allot of knowledge in AI which is not something I know allot in, so maybe something to learn later on.

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Brooklynite wrote: I think you'd be better off just having your admins look for the spam rather than some mindless software.

For sure. Have the program still take logs and analyze the stuff, but don't give it the ability to act on the knowledge it acquires. That way, the program can still be tweaked until it's ready.

It's been brought up before, too.
http://www.anythingforums.com/forums/index...indpost&p=23283

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I am curious to see how much spam we would get if you did turn that filter off. After all, if a spammer starts a thread, we can always delete it or make fun of it. I realy do the thought of banning someone because they posted something they didn't know would be classified as spam.

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sintekk wrote: For sure. Have the program still take logs and analyze the stuff, but don't give it the ability to act on the knowledge it acquires. That way, the program can still be tweaked until it's ready.

Bonne idée! I wouldn’t mind the extra work (I would actually welcome it! My job has gotten rather uneventful! ), and I’m sure people wouldn’t mind making fun of the spam until we could get rid of it, which would only be a matter of hours at most.

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Tak wrote: (I would actually welcome it!  My job has gotten rather uneventful!    )

How much does a moderator position pay, anyways?

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The thing with this system that I like is that it teaches spammers who's boss, since they realize their post won't even get read by no one, so that's why I like the auto-ban. Later on I will reprogram it to be better and work similar to spamassassin - it will display what rules matched and will be viewable by admins. But thta's not really the highest priority so for now this basic one is staying, but I have increased the threashold which should help avoid false positives.

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sintekk wrote:

Tak wrote: (I would actually welcome it!  My job has gotten rather uneventful!    )

How much does a moderator position pay, anyways?

Not one dime

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But you get a really good pension plan.

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Red Squirrel wrote: But you get a really good pension plan.   

Too bad retirement age is 93.

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We rarely get spammers at the NYRA forums, but just recently we got one, and banned him. The admin there edited the thread. Here it is:

Instructions Inside For Being An Idiot Spammer
Damn.. I have to lay off licking toads. Makes me do all sorts of stupid things... Like coming here and spamming up this perfectly nice place.

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Yeah I used to do that too, just edit their post. I actually pissed one off ones he kept coming back under a different name and reposting it and I'd edit it out. It was one of those stupid free ipod scams.

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Brooklynite wrote: Your system is a is way off base Mr. Red. I got banned and classified as a spammer, on Friday as you may recall. You then realized your mistake and corrected it. A spammer is someone who signs up just to post an ad. The closest thing I did to actual spamming was link to another forum site, but I didn't even promote it. I just mentioned it, that's all. I hope that this kind of thing does not happen again. I think you'd be better off just having your admins look for the spam rather than some mindless software.

Red i hate to say anything against you but he had a vary good point. Human interface it much better then software.

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But at least with the software the spammers dont get the satisfaction of it being posted, even if there are a few mistakes.

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Yep and that's the idea behind it but yes it does need some tweaking. The curent one is temporarly I'll be making it better. But the last couple of tweaks might have done the trick.

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I say bring the spammers on! We can handle them!

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Couple more banned new members, I've noticed.

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Yeah they scored super high so it was for sure spam. Still have to get around to making this system better by making it tell me what rules match and such.

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