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Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38901

1. add snow chains to the tires,
12. put studded tires on to get traction.

Both are illegal here unless off road

As for more well sand is a common one because of added weight and ability to put some under the tires if you do get stuck LOL

Oh and cant forget snow/ice tires ^^ no studs of course

If i can afford it im gonna go with some good winter tires and maybe a 1.5 way LSD because i dont have 4x4
Combo should get the truck moving n wont have to add alot of weight, plus will make it some fun once its on the move

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38903

1. add snow chains to the tires,
12. put studded tires on to get traction.

Both are illegal here unless off road 

yes both those are illegal in some places in the usa also.

how ever that don't stop some from doing the studed tires.

snow tires ? summer tires?

i always get all season tires, cause i'm too lazy to get out and change
them in winter.

i didn't even put chains on my semi truck when i was driving that.
if i'm too lazy to put them on four wheels, then there's no way i'm
going to get in the cold and put them on all 18 semi truck wheels.

i just avoided the north in winter, when there was snow in that area.



you might have heard this but if you didn't good.

just add weight to your truck bed or the trunk of the car, that is rear wheel drive
and go backwards up the hill if you can't get out the road from home.
or some other hill on non freeways.

thats how they came up with the idea for front wheel drive, someone spun out on a hill and decided to back up it. which worked it just took time to get front wheel drive cars to be accepted by the public. I believe one of the best was the car called " Auburn Boat Tail " by the Auburn Cord Duesunburg Company in Auburn In. was front wheel drive in the 1930's

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38905

What kind of car you driving squirrel? LOL 1700kg? My truck is lighter then your car

Anyways roving ya adding weight and backing up the hill would work.

FF cars/vans they have better traction in the winter because the weight is split 60%~ over the drive tires on most. In winter weight wont shift to the rear much because you cant accelerate hard anyways. Under hard acceleration in summer tho the 60/40 split is not good for traction as the weight shifts to the rear ^^ Ya ive had an obsession with cars since i was 2.y.o so i know enuff about em ^^
My truck on the other hand is FR and 60%~ of the weight is also in front but because the drive tires are in the back there is not much weight left to hold em down for winter when weight wont shift to the rear under acceleration. FR cars tho are closer to 50/50 so its not as bad in a car then with a truck.
Also the hill in front of the house is a busy street and theres a really busy 4 way stop right near the top would look funny backing uphill here not to mention pissin ppl off on a busy street lol Its easy to avoid the hill anyways because i can just go around the block and end up on the main road here and the hill on the main road is rarely a problem in winter ^^ its just getting out of my driveway that will be difficult

You avoid the north? We live here lol sliding does not bother me at all its getting out in the cold to push that does. There is a nice set of winter tires here that used to be for my moms dodge avenger but she sold it so the bolt pattern may line up and i got an awsome set of free snow tires /wheels Wheels could use a sanding and some paint but the tires are good ones.

I do however have all season tires on right now but i want to get some nice summer tires like yokohoma or something similar with some black 14" or 15" mesh wheels and chrome lip. Combo something like this image just replace gold for black. And then I can buy some new winter tires and mount them on the stock wheels next winter ^^ If i get a chance i will post a pic of my truck in this thread ^^ Camera needs to be charged so maybe tomorrow


Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38906

I drive a buick lasabre, yeah its a heavy car lol. It's about the size of a cadilac, its huge. I hardly get stuck in winter, but the times I did get stuck, I was stuck pretty good. Though I'm pretty good at getting unstuck, provided cars don't stop passing making me have no room to move around.

Also avoid the dump with a small car, there's like a foot of mud because of all the rain. I almost got stuck but managed to get out of it haha. That would suck.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38908

a Buick wow my kind of car. i use to own a Buick duce and a quarter.

big long swayed like a boat but was tweaked up to handle curves with extra strong lifters on the front a frames, thing was about 2500 pounds in weight, solid chrome bumpers and cast iron heads crossover intake
crossover water thermo housing, wrap around rockers 650 four barrel holly with electric choke and open air cover that fit under the hood,
the big switch pitch transmission with the big 425 engine 10 to 9 dome pistons i had that set up with a 300 pound pressure cap on the rad. and i bent the fan blades and balanced them so it was smooth, the thing pulled air through the rad up to the speed of 30 to 40 mph. with that holly on there it squealed tires like they was just thin bands,
but yet going down the road it looked like any normal family 4 door sedan from the 1964 year it was made. it was only when some one in a hot rod wanted to impress his girl and came up to me and gunned his engine that i let them know i had a sleeper. i gunned mine to the floor
that 4 barrel holly opened up with that normal deep vacuum sound.
the guy gave me that deer in headlights stare and picked up his hands off his steering wheel. to say no trouble. of course maybe the whole front end doing the twist when i stomped the pedal had something to do with it too. he pulled out of the light at a normal pace then, the thought of running was gone from his mind.. i enjoyed that car but even more so when i blew up the engine, well that i didn't like but the stuff before hand was a joyride. long story but in short, 10 gallons of gas 4 bottles of octane booster one for racing engines that each took 20 gallons of gas to mix in with. engine was idling at 30 mph i had to ride the brake around fort worth. got to the freeway little new Porsche sat at light in front of me, I'm holding the brake with both feet my car is jumping up and down about 4 inch's with that much fuel power. he See's it in his mirror, gets big smile on face takes off goes under freeway takes left turn on ramp to freeway at 40 MPH. I'm still sitting there at light
and he sees that. he's out of site i hit the fuel take left at 50 mph on to ramp hes 3/4s up ramp i see him look at me in mirror, just as i pass him on end of ramp and get in traffic at 100 MPH, when i passed him i looked in mirror his mouth wide open and car was being rocking sideways by my draft. I'm half mile in front of him when he gets off ram and then off the freeway on shoulder and kicks his car tire, i slowed down got off freeway went home on back streets to avoid cops. ha ha ha never did i laugh so hard, i know he took that brand new Porsche back to the dealer and started ranting and raving. if he only knew the fuel i had in it? and that the engine blew up the next day.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38909

Ok so i know what buick your talking about squirrel and they can be heavy but im sure it has a nice interior lol tho the extirior is not really my type of car ><
I almost got stuck at the dump also but just puttered through it uphill lol back down was np tho just needed a little run to get up and a small car should have np also as long as its not a low car lmao

Umm wtf is a duce and a quarter?



Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38912

buick le saber was the next smaller car down in size to the 225.
they stopped making the 225 some time ago about 8 years or so back.?

i use to have the 1964 year model which was the same used by the police departments back then for patrol cars.

this is a model of it that did not have the center post in between the door windows
i had the one with the center post.

thats just to say for your non car buffs that the windows on the doors had frames around them and the non center post doors only had glass on top of the body of the door. so it was one big hole when both windows are down.

and mine was blue? it had 14 different shades of blue including blue interior lights that were really outside marker lights, but this shows you want they looked like.
this was on line and was at a car sales place asking 18,000 for it.




Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38914

Almost forgot about this thread till today YAY!!!

Ok so its snowing and i went out to just drive around this morning from 7 to 8:30 testing my winter tires.

Very slippery, Ice all over under the snow and the roads had about 2" of snow barely touched because it was so early. Bought new cheapish Hercules Avalanche snow tires for 80$/Tire installed. Got them like 2 weeks ago and they bite pretty good. As for not wanting to change your tires from all season roving just take it to a smaller tire shop and have them do the install if you don't wanna do it yourself ^^ It ran me 30$ aka 15/tire to have both my front all season tires fixed because of slow leaks like they were taken right off the rim so I'm sure an install would be peanuts if you already have the tires to put on your stock rims. Hell would be cheaper if you already had them mounted on winter rims and just need to be bolted on.

Anyways on to how my test went

Downhill/Braking They are not bad. Safe i would say. But I have no ABS at all.

Went down the hill by hilltop confectionery, Steep hill, plus slight angle sideways.
Was very icy so i dropped it in 1st and let the engine keep the speed down. Zero sliding. Stopped at the sign there on the hill again with zero sliding. As i was waiting for traffic to pass i checked my mirror and there was a van going down the hill very slowly behind me but when he was about half way down he started sliding, There was still tons of space between us (6-8 car lengths?) and i now had time to go so i did and after i was across i checked my mirror again and the van was now going down almost sideways in the wrong lane and didn't make the stop lol I Slide a little bit at one stop sign elsewhere but it was glare ice and i was going a little faster then i should have bin but it did stop. Also slammed the brakes on and turned just for the hell of it and the front slide a perfectly strait line and when i let go of the brakes it flung in the direction i was turning lol
So ya they bite alright down an icy hill and during braking.

Cornering & Sliding wow i love em.

Give her gas to get it sliding and it almost feels like i hit a curb or somthing every time I let go of the gas during a slide Stops sliding almost instantly, Very predictable when they do let go unexpectedly at 50 kph as i can feel them start to lose grip and start to catch again without changing how much gas is applied. Same situation except releasing the gas and they bit hard stopping the slide almost instantly. Hold really well when cornering if your light on the gas.
Unlike my all season tires in the rain that i can't feel at all!! Seriously almost slide my truck into a guard rail this summer well it was raining because i couldn't feel that the tires had let go so much. Knew it was sliding but couldn't feel it start to slide or end the slide.

Acceleration?
Somewhat predictable in this area. Poor because of my RWD with no weight in the back plus an open diff. On flat ground i can feel when they start to let go and if i keep just the right amount of gas they pull pretty good without spin but when they start to let go it happens fairly fast and when releasing the gas during spin i can easily feel them catching again as its starts to really push the truck forward. I'm guessing a locker diff will cure some of the spin and help it pull harder as only one tire lets go. Starting from a stop on glare ice well both tires started spinning and the rear of the truck went sideways with the groove of the road but that's expected from a 2wd mini truck starting from zero in this situation. Letting off the gas though catches the slide nicely on glare ice, Got back on the gas very lightly and it started sliding with the groove again lol had to let it coast off the rest of the ice as i did manage to get it moving a fair speed and there was a bad blind curve slightly ahead so i didnt wanna keep the rear of my truck partly in the other lane.

Anyways they help alot but i bet they would do much much more for a FWD car with ABS then they do for my truck.

Also I got a picture of my truck (well a couple pics ) with my phone but its 11:30 and my snows and ice is almost gone Still snowing a little but the snow on the road is gone.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38989

Can see the snow falling in the first one ^^

3rd pic is the pedals i put on because the gas pedal was to low compared to the brake for downshifting and plus they look cool

Last pic is my redneck stereo install Colors for the wiring was messed up for this truck plus a bunch of fuses were blown >< Didn't think of checking the fuses till a few days after it was installed but anyways couldn't find the constant power wire so i ended up splicing into my lighter wire. Turns out it was the pink one that was power just a fuse was dead But w/e it works lol Used a tester when looking for power and my lighter was the only thing nearby getting power at all times><

The wire hanging out of the stereo in the pic is usually used for plugging in my phone or sometimes my psp so i can listen to MP3's Also the time is 1 hour ahead lol just noticed >< gotta change that




Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38990

Yay for snow! Winter driving is fun! Winter keeps most retards off the road, and in the ditchso other drivers can be safe.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38992

Red Squirrel wrote: Yay for snow! Winter driving is fun! Winter keeps most retards off the road, and in the ditchso other drivers can be safe.

It is fun but it does not keep most retards off the road

I will be driving more just for the hell of it just because theres snow

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38993

so you calling your self retard? why? just cause you like snow donuts?



man what a lot of report that was you did some testing there.

still don't want snow tires of course i dont have snow more then 3 hours down here if we get it at all and its only about 3 to 5 or 9 inchs at that.

plus my truck is big enough to handle the snow and ice. not the smei truck i got rid of that only have a GMC 2500 pick up 2004 yr. model.
mainly ice in these parts of the woods. but it melts fast too. shuck we still have green leafs on the trees down here.

i use to like that snow too but in driving semi trucks and seeing all the nut cases that drive cars in summer time, i don't want any thing to do with them on snow and ice.


with all that now this.

keep the shinny side up.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38994

I guess retard would be wrong More like enjoy a spirited drive regardless of road conditions, Like speeding, donuts in the rain and on gravel/dirt were fun but my old tires were 13 years old so ya sliding with them was very easy in any conditions even dry but highly unpredictable and dangerous because of zero feedback. Like hard to tell if the truck was sliding yet so would sometimes end up sliding it more then i was trying for. ><

I may bomb around on the street but only when theres no traffic around otherwise i slow down and drive like a human being I dont wanna hurt anyone just have a little fun on back roads and areas that are open enuff to play in ^^

Anyway everyone has a cell phone nowadays so

But this winter im gonna have no choice to slide the truck because its old theres no traction control and no ABS & its a 5speed so its gonna be all over the road just driving normally even in good winter road conditions like hills etc will still take the truck if im on the gas a little and in an emergency brakes may be the most dangerous thing i could use as my front tires lock up so no steering. I kinda have to get used to using brakes without ABS and stuff because everything ive driven before my truck was new 2000+ and FWD automatic. Like FWD sliding with ABS slowing down and using the brakes are always the best options in a bad situation but RWD without ABS slowing down or braking during a slide may make things much much worse.

I would rather learn how to control the truck when its fairly safe like on roads that are wide enuff to have a fair mistake and still have lots of time to catch it VS Learning in an emergency where i need to avoid an accident.

Anyways i am loving the new tires in the snow because of how much feedback i get from them I actually can feel what the trucks doing now compared to my old tires.
So lets say it will keep Canadas worst drivers off the road

Hey roving you have driven semi's like 18 wheelers right? What about a dump truck?
I got a job offer doing a run with an old dump truck and id LOVE to take it because thats kinda the line of work i would like, anything driving would be kewl but only stick shift ive driven is my little truck and ive got no experience with anything bigger plus no experience with air brakes and im only gonna get 3days training on the job to prove i can do it, Fail means no job so im kinda nervous to take it right away so any tips? I searched around online and cant find much other then schools.

I wouldnt mess around with a truck that isnt mine and the owner knows ive got zero experience but info to give me a jump start of what to expect with shifting/air brakes/backing the truck etc would be nice. Backing my little truck I just use the back window most of the time. I can do it with just mirrors but i can get within 1" or less from things like the telephone pole in front of my house when using the rear window but using mirrors I cant get near that close more like 10"

Anyways gearing doesnt worry me in the least as i learned my truck like nothing from zero experience Im sure it will be much different but i should be able to figger it out easy. Its the size of the truck and air brakes that im worried about >< Though its private property so size i may not have to worry about much because I would just be lining up piles in a more or less open area i think.

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:38995

I know double post LOL Roving to the post above if you may ^^
Last post seems long enough so

Lots of snow outside now YAY for snow doritos heheh a buddy i was following just did 180 in the middle of the street by accident well trying to slide his truck lol to much gas Street was empty aside from me/him and an empty parked van and he didn't get dangerously close to anything so no biggie.

Anyways exhaust bolts broke at a flange on the cat between the muffler/cat. First one well I was leaving a stop sign few days ago (No snow so i left normally as i dont want to kill my winter tires so I WAS NOT MESSING AROUND lol) and now half my exhaust system is falling off lol Still fully functional like no extra noise aside from the few massively loud pings over a few days well it was breaking bolts and the rattle it made for a few days after the ping's to loosen some pipe but seems to have settled and the rattle is gone and its still lined up and doing its job so no leaks / noise but the exhaust tip is on my paint And i can grab it and twist it from the tip to the cat.
Oh and I should add YAY a chance to upgrade

Tell me what you think of the sounds Stock VS Magnaflow VS Flowmaster

Stock actually sounds worse IRL compared to video like more like an electric weed eater and i can believe the magnaflow sounds better IRL then video but its the sound off the throttle i like (almost sounds like its multiple small backfires.) And flowmaster i like on throttle and idle but dislike off throttle as the sounds are inconsistent.

Decisions decisions. Locker or exhaust can only afford one now? Magnaflow or flowmaster? Locked? or LSD?

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:39005

Might be a little early to bump this thread but hey

Installed a Powertrax Lock-Right made by Richmond gear LINK
Should make things much more fun this winter with my 2wd mini truck

Had it installed for few weeks, Interesting to drive with for sure, No one will ever want to borrow my truck more then once lmao Took me like 2 days to learn how to drive with it on dry pavement for basic cornering in city, took me about 5 days to learn how to do tighter turns like parking and U-turns without locking it.
Had to change how I shift for cornering, And how I corner in general ><

If it locks well turning it bucks the truck repeatedly throughout the turn (feels like really bad shifting multiple times in a row) But considering how it works , I'm guessing it would have been easier to learn with tires that have better grip or if my truck had more weight to it. Or automatic trans instead of 5spd

As far as driving goes I can no longer shift mid corner, Can no longer apply nor let go of the gas mid corner, Like umm, Make a choice before turning in and keeping that choice untill the steering is almost straight again.

Like to get through a turn smoothly I have 3 options
1) Brake/Downshift and have it in gear before I turn the wheel and use engine breaking for the "entire" turn (applying gas or pressing the clutch mid turn will buck the truck, Very light braking will not),
2) Brake/Downshift and have it in gear before I turn the wheel and use a light acceleration throughout the entire turn whitch sometimes means, Depending on the type of turn, Running RPM's way higher then I normally would (letting off the gas or pressing the clutch mid turn will buck the truck)
3) For really tight turns like getting into a parking space or if couldnt get options 1 or 2, Just let it coast in neutral around entire corner. (Putting it in gear mid turn will buck the truck ><)

It's surprisingly hard to nail the proper speed for a turn before you actually turn so you don't have to adjust mid turn lol

After the initial learning with it though It's damn near invisible like I completely forgot it was there and at 1 point thought it was no longer working because there was no noise and smooth as hell cornering for the longest time Light clicking noise when doing really tight turns is the only reminder left that it's still there, So far it has gotten me out of 3 places where I would have been right stuck without it.

Truck also feels much safer on dirt roads like I took it out on pine and it feels much better at 80kph out there with the locker then it did before just doing 50kph because my truck is small I can only keep 2 tires on the packed path where most drive and 2 stay on very loose gravel. Without the locker the truck would weave back and forth but now It doesn't

So ya tires and my locker is my winter combo ^^ Just hoping it add's oversteer and not understeer in the snow, Light highway style turns on dry pavement it seems to add understeer but on gravel it add's very nice light oversteer. Should be fun

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:39204

That is interesting, where exactly does that install, right where the drive shaft connects to the axle?

Oh and it's not too early to post this, it's almost September, which means it's almost time for snow!

I always thought summer came after spring, but guess it just goes straight to Winter. This "summer" thing must of been a dream of mine. 2 years in a row that I think there's this "summer" season after spring. what gives eh?

Archived topic from Iceteks, old topic ID:5063, old post ID:39205

Ya it installs in the center of the rear axle. There are some spider gears in there so your left and right tires can spin at different speeds when turning like say a left turn the inside(left side) tires travels a shorter distance then the outside(right side) tires, the gears let this difference in distance happen. The spider gears are also safer on the street because there is less chance of doing a 180/360 in bad road conditions and it makes cars much much harder to roll over because all power is sent to the tire in the air instead of to the tire on the ground. (Can test this by jacking up 1 drive tire and then trying to move the car, It won't move anywhere on it's own power and just spin the 1 tire in the air, Can also test on most RC cars if you have one)

But the spider gears are also the reason why only 1 tire spins when stuck in snow or on ice.

So the locker replaces the spider gears and makes it more like a toy car so both left and right tires spin at the same speed, Now a left turn the inside tire has to rotate the exact same number of times the outside tire did but inside tire travels less distance causing the tire to squeak/chirp. Can also go the other way and the outside tire can drag covering more distance then the amount of rotations worth the tire did
Can jack 1 of my drive tires up and it will drive off the jack though because both tires get the same power instead of the tire with less grip getting more power

Anyways I'm loving the fact that I got in crap for doing a "burnout" at work and leaving a nice line on the pavement lol It was pulling out of a parking space so very tight turn Wasn't seen pulling out slowly only heard lmao But like I said it does unlock if there is enough grip on both tires to allow the tires to rotate different speeds but it's picky on the conditions of when it will unlock, thats why it was a pain to learn how to turn with it
Stays locked all the time on dirt and when it rains because theres not enough grip to unlock it so winter will be fun fully locked all the time and 2 tires spinning = sliding but it will continue moving forward even if it is all over the road lol

I basically sacrificed cornering traction in exchange for forward traction as far as winter goes but i like sliding anyways.

And ya squirrel your also forgetting the whole Canadian thing where a few months of very light snow IS our summer




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