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how did we change the subject to *we did not forget about the shard* to *what custom items give to much prop*

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Pretty much most of the items posted are examples of items that are way above the normal intensity level for that grade.

We are currently working on an OSI tested formula to help resolve some of the artifact intensity problems so that it's easy to scale them without the need to remove the artifact or nerf the blazes out of it.

Because many of the artifacts just surpass a certain stat to unheard of levels (20 stat bonus for example), most can just have points shaved away from them gradually until they reach the appropriate intensity grade.

While you give some interesting insight, going by your logic would mean helm of insight needs to be nerfed because it adds 23 mana total. Certain items are in fact good, but not game breaking. I'm not saying the items listed don't need nerfs, I'm just pointing out that we need to consider other factors =p,

We must also consider that many artifacts with exceptional bonuses also have a larger drawback. If we take the helm of insight as an example, the resist bonuses are hard to play with and fall outside the most important resists. The helm is also non-medeable which is a huge drawback to spell casters for passive and active meditation.

If you consider the armor of fortune and its 200 luck and 40% lrc bonus, it has less resistance than a piece of single ply toilet paper. Because of these drawbacks, there's no extra property bonuses and intensity, which allows it to still fit within its grade without surpassing its total intensity.

how did we change the subject to *we did not forget about the shard* to *what custom items give to much prop*

Threads tend to change directions when there's a lot of opinion. This one's still on track though as it's a discussion pertaining to the whole revamp scenario and how it will affect existing content.

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you should have seen the unstoppable suits hector and I put together before the cap on hp. I think he broke the 200hp mark and I wasn't far behind. I dont think d played back then, but I dont remember fighting him with those suits. We made some rpvs of us fighting, I had a katana w/ 50 lightning, 50harm, and fc1. Hector had an awesome archer, niether of us could kill each other.

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newguy wrote:how did we change the subject to *we did not forget about the shard* to *what custom items give to much prop*

Because the topic involved the revamp which involves the future of what will happen to the game content such as items.

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lol yeh lets nerf ORNY lol coz that is over powered we better lol and armour of fort because it has massive lrc and toooooo much luck bla bla bla. Even black hole. Its not that great I had one on my swords guy and it blew some seriouse sav.
Better nerf jackles coz its gives 15 dex ******************* OMFG
Seriousely small nerfs but no BS nerfs

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Drucilia wrote:lol yeh lets nerf ORNY lol coz that is over powered we better lol and armour of fort because it has massive lrc and toooooo much luck bla bla bla. Even black hole. Its not that great I had one on my swords guy and it blew some seriouse sav.
Better nerf jackles coz its gives 15 dex ******************* OMFG
Seriousely small nerfs but no BS nerfs

lol i really dont think anything needs to change

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newguy wrote:

Drucilia wrote:lol yeh lets nerf ORNY lol coz that is over powered we better lol and armour of fort because it has massive lrc and toooooo much luck bla bla bla. Even black hole. Its not that great I had one on my swords guy and it blew some seriouse sav.
Better nerf jackles coz its gives 15 dex ******************* OMFG
Seriousely small nerfs but no BS nerfs

lol i really dont think anything needs to change

I think Drucilla needs to change. Shrug.

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DRAMAcilia

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Drucilia wrote:lol yeh lets nerf ORNY lol coz that is over powered we better lol and armour of fort because it has massive lrc and toooooo much luck bla bla bla. Even black hole. Its not that great I had one on my swords guy and it blew some seriouse sav.
Better nerf jackles coz its gives 15 dex ******************* OMFG
Seriousely small nerfs but no BS nerfs

Did you even read what everyone said??? Where talking about how they should be nerfed but only slightly, and as i said earlier yes jackals gives Dex bonus but thats about it!!! Now on the other hand gods wrath gives DEX STR DI and good resists that doesnt overshadow jackals?

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shh, love Wrath. on the other hand, nerf Wrath! cuz I don't have one anymore Had to give Kaiden's back to him.
And I miss CC too. My archer's suit is so jacked now.

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:DRAMAcilia

Ah Doc, you're the best. Why don't we hang out more?

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trill is talking about halving stat bonus's and mana bonus's ect thats not a small nerf buddy

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Ye some specific pieces do need a bigger nerf and many of us agree...

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lol I think the people asking for this are a) those with out the items or b) those who cant handle the suits other have and this is a great way to destroy them lol.
If u think something is over powered then its simple dont use it. Personally i think most over powered thing on this shard is the loot. lol. 1/3 50 di 15/15 rings and braces ffs

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Drucilia wrote:lol I think the people asking for this are a) those with out the items or b) those who cant handle the suits other have and this is a great way to destroy them lol.
If u think something is over powered then its simple dont use it. Personally i think most over powered thing on this shard is the loot. lol. 1/3 50 di 15/15 rings and braces ffs

first off, di is capped at 25, so idk where you are getting 50.

Second of all, your statement is completely irrational:

I don't want to sound conceited, but I am pretty sure I have the best pvm mage suit, pvp mage suit, and pvp dexxer suit. Despite this, and have nearly every item in the game (some multiples) I am in favor of an overall nerf to some items. Some items are a bit too strong, and they do need to be brought down a little, but they will still be good. You also have to remember that when items get nerfed, we will also be receiving major updates with tons of new content, items, and quests. There will be less over-the-top items, but overall a larger variety of items for more suit customization.

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d. wrote:

Drucilia wrote:lol I think the people asking for this are a) those with out the items or b) those who cant handle the suits other have and this is a great way to destroy them lol.
If u think something is over powered then its simple dont use it. Personally i think most over powered thing on this shard is the loot. lol. 1/3 50 di 15/15 rings and braces ffs

first off, di is capped at 25, so idk where you are getting 50.

Second of all, your statement is completely irrational:

I don't want to sound conceited, but I am pretty sure I have the best pvm mage suit, pvp mage suit, and pvp dexxer suit. Despite this, and have nearly every item in the game (some multiples) I am in favor of an overall nerf to some items. Some items are a bit too strong, and they do need to be brought down a little, but they will still be good. You also have to remember that when items get nerfed, we will also be receiving major updates with tons of new content, items, and quests. There will be less over-the-top items, but overall a larger variety of items for more suit customization.

Not to mention that every system is getting its revisions, which means that the whole damage calculation is getting revised. This affects how damage is done in pvm and pvp, so if we fix damage, then those artifacts with really high DI would be a huge problem as the cap changes.

And yes, we know that loot is messed up because of how the system is originally coded. Loot itself will change to something logical (Sorry those who camped mongbats for 1/3's, that's going bye bye). On the positive side, higher end creatures will begin to drop items of considerable worth instead of 60 items with crap properties. Less emphasis on total items and more emphasis on quality items.

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you can get 1/3s off of mongbats? too bad i don't know what slayer I would use for them...

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Bat Slayer

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ggkthx wrote:Bat Slayer

dammit! I don't have one of those I better wait till I get one before I start trying to kill mongbats.

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DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:

ggkthx wrote:Bat Slayer

dammit! I don't have one of those I better wait till I get one before I start trying to kill mongbats.

I have one I can sell. Going by plastic man's old vendor prices, I'll be kind and only charge 15 mil for it.

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d. wrote:

Drucilia wrote:lol I think the people asking for this are a) those with out the items or b) those who cant handle the suits other have and this is a great way to destroy them lol.
If u think something is over powered then its simple dont use it. Personally i think most over powered thing on this shard is the loot. lol. 1/3 50 di 15/15 rings and braces ffs

first off, di is capped at 25, so idk where you are getting 50.

Second of all, your statement is completely irrational:

I don't want to sound conceited, but I am pretty sure I have the best pvm mage suit, pvp mage suit, and pvp dexxer suit. Despite this, and have nearly every item in the game (some multiples) I am in favor of an overall nerf to some items. Some items are a bit too strong, and they do need to be brought down a little, but they will still be good. You also have to remember that when items get nerfed, we will also be receiving major updates with tons of new content, items, and quests. There will be less over-the-top items, but overall a larger variety of items for more suit customization.

I can retire from this post just by quoting this 8)

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what are the actuall prices for super slayers

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newguy wrote:what are the actuall prices for super slayers

Not sure, but the Bat super slayer price has exploded after the potential 1/3 news was leaked out from an inside source.

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lol why do you mean a slayer to kill bats

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was just making a point that if they are gunna nerf existing arties existing items should be nerfed also

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