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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:15 am
by Red Squirrel
what's crazy is that it's somewhat possible. People have built robots on a non-trillion dollar budget so it's just the thing of figuring out how to safely send it to mars, and establish some kind of super long range communication chanel. Hmmmm, a rail gun should be able to shoot stuff in space.
I'd probably miss the planet and send it to the sun or something though.
It's not as easy as it sounds, you need to calculate the exact speed it will travel so that the planets, astroids and any other space stuff is placed properly.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:21 am
by The Gheyness
Mmkay, it's scary that you're giving it this much thought.....
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:22 am
by The Gheyness
WORK ON THE FORUMS FIRST, RED.
Then you can plot world domination.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:48 am
by MrSelf
Red Squirrel wrote: It's not as easy as it sounds, you need to calculate the exact speed it will travel so that the planets, astroids and any other space stuff is placed properly.
You know what's really crazy/sad? That's how NASA does it. When they send probes to saturn, they have to time it just perfect in just the correct direction, adjusting for the entire trip the gravitational pulls from the sun, or planets, or asteroids. It's a pain, but it ensures that we really understand the process inside and out.
So you're not that far off.... now for that rain gun.....
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:48 pm
by erolyn
Joe wrote: Peace through war my friend..
Did you mean for that to come from 1984, or was that just a coincidence?
Anyway, I honestly don't think world peace is ever going to be possible. I know that's pessimistic, but as long as there are people, people are going to be different, and as long as people are different, people are going to hate each other. Really, it's that simple. There's no possible way to stop hatred, unless we made every single person think alike, look alike, talk alike, be EXACTLY alike in every aspect...and even if that were possible, where's the fun in that?
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:18 pm
by manadren
erolyn wrote: Joe wrote: Peace through war my friend..
Did you mean for that to come from 1984, or was that just a coincidence?
Anyway, I honestly don't think world peace is ever going to be possible. I know that's pessimistic, but as long as there are people, people are going to be different, and as long as people are different, people are going to hate each other. Really, it's that simple. There's no possible way to stop hatred, unless we made every single person think alike, look alike, talk alike, be EXACTLY alike in every aspect...and even if that were possible, where's the fun in that?
People, can and have come together, and forget about they're differences... just as long as there is someone else even worse to hate. It's not just hatred, hatred never exists on it's own, it's accompanied by fear. Fear motivates, fear manipulates. And for far to many people, the only way they can deal with fear is to center it onto something tangible, something easy to isolate. They make their own barbarians, so they can build a gate to shut them out.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:11 am
by MrSelf
Very true manadren.
Much of what you say is true Erolyn. However, people being different doesn't have to mean hostilities. As we as people become more and more aware of cultural differences, many of these knee-jerk reactions to differences go away, but the larger issue is what causes this reaction. I have found, as many would agree I believe, that these people all have larger psychological issues that cause these reactions. As we become more aware of these, we are able to overcome them.
I know it seems like we should be so much farther along, but everyone should understand one thing, we are very early in our global evolution. It has only been withing the last several decades that there has been a sense of global accountability, the majority of women have only had equal rights to men for about 100 years out of the 1,000's we've existed in societies, only for about 300 years have people had a chance to be in charge of their governments, only Only 600 since the western hemisphere was more or less unpopulated. Only 40 since we really started exploring our brains, and we know virtually nothing about them.
We don't have to hate what is different, and society is, sometimes very slowly, moving forward in tolerating what is unusual, rather than beating it and burying it out back...
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:04 am
by Bookworm
MrSelf wrote: Very true manadren.
Much of what you say is true Erolyn. However, people being different doesn't have to mean hostilities. As we as people become more and more aware of cultural differences, many of these knee-jerk reactions to differences go away, but the larger issue is what causes this reaction. I have found, as many would agree I believe, that these people all have larger psychological issues that cause these reactions. As we become more aware of these, we are able to overcome them.
I know it seems like we should be so much farther along, but everyone should understand one thing, we are very early in our global evolution. It has only been withing the last several decades that there has been a sense of global accountability, the majority of women have only had equal rights to men for about 100 years out of the 1,000's we've existed in societies, only for about 300 years have people had a chance to be in charge of their governments, only Only 600 since the western hemisphere was more or less unpopulated. Only 40 since we really started exploring our brains, and we know virtually nothing about them.
We don't have to hate what is different, and society is, sometimes very slowly, moving forward in tolerating what is unusual, rather than beating it and burying it out back...
A few things MrSelf did not mention are the the connecting threads of the internet in bringing us together as people and the growing sense of a global economy. Also McDonalds. No two countries who have McDonalds restaurants have gone to war with each other.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:30 pm
by FloodG8-9595
I guess that means that McDonalds is winning the war then... I mean they are slowly killing us off.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:01 pm
by sintekk
McDonalds is winning the war... by taking our money and poisoning us!
The question is... why do we keep coming back for more poison?
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:03 pm
by MrSelf
Why do people is abusive relationships continue to get hit? Why did a majority of Americans vote for bush?
Why?
El Nino
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:44 pm
by Stasi
I envision a post-apocalyptic world a la "Planet of the Apes", except that some apes will still be like they are today (like gorillas, chimps, and magillas), and the power-group with the power of speech will be evolved apes that look like humans and speak Engrish. The crazy twist will be that dinosaurs make a comeback and live in harmony with the apes that look like humans and serve to keep all those damn dirty, lowly, silly apes in line. And the humans of the future will be hermaphrodites with a set of functioning male and female "equipment" and will reproduce asexually like flatworms.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:54 pm
by erolyn
MrSelf wrote: We don't have to hate what is different, and society is, sometimes very slowly, moving forward in tolerating what is unusual, rather than beating it and burying it out back...
The problem is, every time I start to hope that that's true, I see another segment on the news about how George Bush wants to stop gays from getting married, or how American Muslims have to live in fear. I know I'm pessimistic, but I can't help it...things look kinda bleak from my neck of the woods.
By the way, slightly off topic: the Star Wars icons are a great idea.
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peace is it really so hard
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:52 am
by MrSelf
I certainly know what you mean, it does seem we are in some sort of recession in our social evolution right now, but it won't last more than a couple of years, and thankfully the rest of the world is pushing forward with or without us.
And nice av.
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