What was meant was all people, it's sad when people and/or politics get in the way. People can be downright evil sometimes.erolyn wrote: What Jefferson MEANT was, "all white, upper-class, heterosexual males are created equal".
I still don't understand why you just can't let them do whatever the hell they want as long as it isn't affecting youRed Squirrel wrote: And that's a good thing? LOL. Your tax dollars at work.
Right. The first thing americans say when you talk about slavery. "THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO" And they still celebrate thanksgiving and independance day, both holidays a long time ago and when things were different.Joe wrote: That was a long time ago, the way of life was different.
Red Squirrel wrote: Why should some gross people be using innocent's tax dollars?
They're probably thinking "I can't get married, why the hell are they using my tax dollars?"
In fact I heard that half of these "gay" marriages are not all gay people, just random people saying "hey we should marry then get a tax break"
That's a eerie thought, but I doubt it
The first thing I said was "Didn't Jefferson have a slave?"William Wallace wrote: Right. The first thing americans say when you talk about slavery.
j/KActually the first thing out of my mouth as an amemrican when you talk about slavery is this. Slavery was not exclusive to America, We didn't start slavery and the people alive today had NOTHING to do with it. If you think that I (just because I was born and live in the U.S.) am responsible for slavery then I am truly saddned by your lack of ability to see life in an individual perspecive.William Wallace wrote:Right. The first thing americans say when you talk about slavery. "THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO" And they still celebrate thanksgiving and independance day, both holidays a long time ago and when things were different.Joe wrote: That was a long time ago, the way of life was different.
Yeah your right that is arrogant and also racist or countryist or sumthin like that.Bookworm wrote: I will gladly own up to William's assertion that Americans are arrogant. I am proud to live in the greatest country in the world, and if someone wants to call that arrogance, then I can certainly see their point.
Well said. See it the same way. I ask myself some times when Some Darker people come to my job and start saying WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT CRACKER. In the mean time i'm loading their cars with the product they orderd. so.... I know that they are takeing it out on me what happens years ago. Thats not right.
Actually the first thing out of my mouth as an amemrican when you talk about slavery is this. Slavery was not exclusive to America, We didn't start slavery and the people alive today had NOTHING to do with it. If you think that I (just because I was born and live in the U.S.) am responsible for slavery then I am truly saddned by your lack of ability to see life in an individual perspecive.
The reason people say THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO is because it... was.. It's not an excuse by anymeans.. Slavery was a terrible awful thing and I dont' know how many times it can be said and mean anything if it keeps being harped on.. The fact is that we live with our past for what it is. I don't deny it but I sure as hell don't revel in it. look back far enough bucko and someone in your family probably owned a slave too.. African or not...
In my opinion no one has any right to make a general blanket statment that "Americans are ....(fillintheblank)".. It's that kind of thinking that causes hate to run rampant in this world. It's that kind of demonization that LEADs to slavery and racism.. Just because Americans arn't "disinfranchised" or poor doesn't mean than the retoric being spewed isn't just as hatefull and wrong.
"how do you like them apples ho-bag... and how do you like those very same apples Edgers" -Captin Murphy (sealab 2021)
Nice post, good pointsActually the first thing out of my mouth as an amemrican when you talk about slavery is this. Slavery was not exclusive to America, We didn't start slavery and the people alive today had NOTHING to do with it. If you think that I (just because I was born and live in the U.S.) am responsible for slavery then I am truly saddned by your lack of ability to see life in an individual perspecive.
The reason people say THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO is because it... was.. It's not an excuse by anymeans.. Slavery was a terrible awful thing and I dont' know how many times it can be said and mean anything if it keeps being harped on.. The fact is that we live with our past for what it is. I don't deny it but I sure as hell don't revel in it. look back far enough bucko and someone in your family probably owned a slave too.. African or not...
In my opinion no one has any right to make a general blanket statment that "Americans are ....(fillintheblank)".. It's that kind of thinking that causes hate to run rampant in this world. It's that kind of demonization that LEADs to slavery and racism.. Just because Americans arn't "disinfranchised" or poor doesn't mean than the retoric being spewed isn't just as hatefull and wrong.
"how do you like them apples ho-bag... and how do you like those very same apples Edgers" -Captin Murphy (sealab 2021)
I'm not sure those particular people arn't justhellmaster4eva wrote:Well said. See it the same way. I ask myself some times when Some Darker people come to my job and start saying WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT CRACKER. In the mean time i'm loading their cars with the product they orderd. so.... I know that they are takeing it out on me what happens years ago. Thats not right.
Actually the first thing out of my mouth as an amemrican when you talk about slavery is this. Slavery was not exclusive to America, We didn't start slavery and the people alive today had NOTHING to do with it. If you think that I (just because I was born and live in the U.S.) am responsible for slavery then I am truly saddned by your lack of ability to see life in an individual perspecive.
The reason people say THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO is because it... was.. It's not an excuse by anymeans.. Slavery was a terrible awful thing and I dont' know how many times it can be said and mean anything if it keeps being harped on.. The fact is that we live with our past for what it is. I don't deny it but I sure as hell don't revel in it. look back far enough bucko and someone in your family probably owned a slave too.. African or not...
In my opinion no one has any right to make a general blanket statment that "Americans are ....(fillintheblank)".. It's that kind of thinking that causes hate to run rampant in this world. It's that kind of demonization that LEADs to slavery and racism.. Just because Americans arn't "disinfranchised" or poor doesn't mean than the retoric being spewed isn't just as hatefull and wrong.
"how do you like them apples ho-bag... and how do you like those very same apples Edgers" -Captin Murphy (sealab 2021)
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I find most people I've meet, all around the world, are arrogant in general. Most Canadian's I've meet are very arrogant about whatever they can be (no offense red, but guns and healthcare are always the first things canadians bring upRed Squirrel wrote: Oh and I have to agree too that some americans, or most americans, are arogant. But most Canadians are friendly, Most scotish talk funny... so we all have our traits.
), just like Americans are about what they can be, and any other population is that I've visited. Most(as in overall) western Europeans I've met or talked to were very 'set in their ways', or stubborn as hell, unless they are city-dwellers. But, yeah, I know a lot of arrogant people, I try not to associate with them, but they are everywhere. I find that people in the world today are just too confident in their opinions, without doing any research to back that up. 
MrSelf wrote:I find most people I've meet, all around the world, are arrogant in general. Most Canadian's I've meet are very arrogant about whatever they can be (no offense red, but guns and healthcare are always the first things canadians bring upRed Squirrel wrote: Oh and I have to agree too that some americans, or most americans, are arogant. But most Canadians are friendly, Most scotish talk funny... so we all have our traits.
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The Asgard thank you for your correctnessThere is a line between patriotism and sentances that make the rest of the world hate you.Bookworm wrote: I am proud to live in the greatest country in the world
No offence Will but RediculousWilliam Wallace wrote: What americans NEED to do is make a formal apology to afromericans. And I don't mean walking down the street, buying a pack of flowers and handing it to some black guy and say sorry. The president needs to do it, on Global Television, so that the while world sees it.
"but WW none of u did it lolzz"
Since America is the LEADER IN EVERYTHING, why doesn't america do something Good for a change, rather than building WMDS that could crack the crust of the earth*yes, it's a fact*, they could turn all that knowledge towards finding a cure for cancer or AIDS. In this scenario, then can be the first to apologize to black, and go down in history for it.
