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Can always add more conditions to the cu sidhe to detect that kind of stuff. After all, that's pretty much the cu sidhe's strength.dprantl wrote:I agree, that would be pretty cool. And it's not like Cu's don't already do this with healing. Maybe have a pet sense when the master's health is low and heal them. Maybe master health < 50%?
Well, I meant for this ability to apply to magery pets as well. I don't think anything else can be improved on the Cu, since it pretty much spams heal on the owner any time they are damaged and close enough.Death wrote:Can always add more conditions to the cu sidhe to detect that kind of stuff. After all, that's pretty much the cu sidhe's strength.dprantl wrote:I agree, that would be pretty cool. And it's not like Cu's don't already do this with healing. Maybe have a pet sense when the master's health is low and heal them. Maybe master health < 50%?
As aweeeeeeeeeeesome as that would be, I think it might make it a little too easy. Maybe cure poison, but healing might over do it. wtf would be the point of having a Cu if a stronger pet that takes up less slots could heal you?Plastic Man wrote:I agree with this statement. Pets healing their masters occasionally would tend to support the "Your pet is your partner, not your slave." hypothesis.Drucilia wrote:That being said pets could have thier AI bumped up to cast heal on their master since monsters are so God damn smart. Pets casting heal ect would only be fair.
Well, having a pet cast heal a couple of times would be far from a Cu spamming bandages non-stop. Also, pets can run out of mana but Cu's never run out of bandages. It just makes sense since pets can heal themselves, the smarter ones should know when the master is dying and try to keep them alive. Not a spam thing, just throw in a heal every 10 seconds or so.Captain Kryptus wrote:As aweeeeeeeeeeesome as that would be, I think it might make it a little too easy. Maybe cure poison, but healing might over do it. wtf would be the point of having a Cu if a stronger pet that takes up less slots could heal you?Plastic Man wrote:I agree with this statement. Pets healing their masters occasionally would tend to support the "Your pet is your partner, not your slave." hypothesis.Drucilia wrote:That being said pets could have thier AI bumped up to cast heal on their master since monsters are so God damn smart. Pets casting heal ect would only be fair.
Certainly something to consider during the revamp. Having pets more in tune with their masters would be an interesting feature. The more you fight with your pet, the more it learns from you and becomes a better ally.dprantl wrote: Well, having a pet cast heal a couple of times would be far from a Cu spamming bandages non-stop. Also, pets can run out of mana but Cu's never run out of bandages. It just makes sense since pets can heal themselves, the smarter ones should know when the master is dying and try to keep them alive. Not a spam thing, just throw in a heal every 10 seconds or so.
I definitely LOVE this idea. Kinda like evolution but just getting smarter instead of stronger. Which in a lot of cases is much better in my opinion. :]Death wrote:Certainly something to consider during the revamp. Having pets more in tune with their masters would be an interesting feature. The more you fight with your pet, the more it learns from you and becomes a better ally.dprantl wrote: Well, having a pet cast heal a couple of times would be far from a Cu spamming bandages non-stop. Also, pets can run out of mana but Cu's never run out of bandages. It just makes sense since pets can heal themselves, the smarter ones should know when the master is dying and try to keep them alive. Not a spam thing, just throw in a heal every 10 seconds or so.
I've heard both sides of the story. Some people say it's fine while other people say it's not fine so the devs would have to see what the tamer is fighting. Just like any other template, there are monsters that react differently depending on what class you play, such as mages VS orc brutes, archers vs gargoyle destroyers or deathwatch beetles etc.Mika wrote:So after hearing everyone bitch and moan about this, I made my first tamer in UO. Yall must really suck at this game, cuz this shit is ridiculously ez mode.... Like I have no idea what the hell ur crying about. I went searching for things that can be done on any other character and found it all to be lazy mindless work. Lvl 3 destard? Did all the wyverns at same time as the AW several times, no issues. As with every other place I tried... I duuno WTF yall are cryin about? I hear its diff on this shard than other.. that on others u can just cast invis and let ur pet do everything which seems broken and im glad its not. Perhaps build a better luck suit with solid resists instead of making you character completely useless besides a pet? QQ less... being a tamer is still the most gimp thing I have ever tried on here. Lrn2 control ur pets better or sumthin.. I mean damn....... wtf is up with all the QQing?
Go and try a demitel, for example. It will look at your pet, then instantly turn on you. As long as you are in its line of sight, it will chase you non-stop. If you are not mounted and don't have 70's resists, you will love the explo/mindblast/FS combos it will throw at you as fast as z0rak after snorting 10 pounds of coke.Mika wrote:lol if you buff tamers more im seriously going to PvM rape this place
ok well this is simple. Tamers are NOT the one man army people think they are. And the demitels are smarter then most of the other mobs. People tend to think that the aw or some crazy pet with loads of str and hp can solo crazy buff mobs. This is not the case. Your pet needs to be able to see you in order to stay loyal to you. And it is possible to be line of sight of your pet and not be line of sight of the target mob, its a matter of your personal tactics when fighting the mob.dprantl wrote:Go and try a demitel, for example. It will look at your pet, then instantly turn on you. As long as you are in its line of sight, it will chase you non-stop. If you are not mounted and don't have 70's resists, you will love the explo/mindblast/FS combos it will throw at you as fast as z0rak after snorting 10 pounds of coke.Mika wrote:lol if you buff tamers more im seriously going to PvM rape this place
Onykage, yes all that you say above is true. However, I can easily solo these same demitels with a mage, or even easier with an archer. PvM (just like PvP) should be balanced so things are close to the same difficulty for the major templates. As it is now, most bosses are not feasible to go at with a tamer unless you have a full resist suit, which IMO defeats the purpose since tamers are synonymous with luck suits. I don't mind if a boss comes at the tamer once in a while. But constantly running after them non-stop, not even turning for a mere second to attack the pets is silly.onykage wrote:ok well this is simple. Tamers are NOT the one man army people think they are. And the demitels are smarter then most of the other mobs. People tend to think that the aw or some crazy pet with loads of str and hp can solo crazy buff mobs. This is not the case. Your pet needs to be able to see you in order to stay loyal to you. And it is possible to be line of sight of your pet and not be line of sight of the target mob, its a matter of your personal tactics when fighting the mob.dprantl wrote:Go and try a demitel, for example. It will look at your pet, then instantly turn on you. As long as you are in its line of sight, it will chase you non-stop. If you are not mounted and don't have 70's resists, you will love the explo/mindblast/FS combos it will throw at you as fast as z0rak after snorting 10 pounds of coke.Mika wrote:lol if you buff tamers more im seriously going to PvM rape this place
And altho it is possible, and is one hell of a workout, it is possible to solo a demitel, it just takes alot of time and patience. Demitels mind you where NEVER meant to be a solo'd mob. Those were meant to be a group activity.
And lastly, I would expect a good mage to produce the same results in pvp if you where to target an enemy player(ie meteor,mindblast,flamestrike,fireball). Fastest way to beat a tamer is to kill the tamer, and say screw the pet. The AI thinks in the same manor.
Why does difficult within UO ALWAYS have to mean hits for 100 dmg and has 50k hp? Why can't difficult be smarter, have more skills, hit for waaaaay less, but have incredible armor where it requires a group? Why can't it spawn 4 lesser versions with 5k hp that do nothing but prevent the main target from dying, until they're dead? Why does "UO Difficult" HAVE to mean more damage to the player?Difficulty does not equal balance. The more difficult something is the more fun it is to do, and the more rewarding it is to finish it.
It's almost always easier to just make something powerful (OSI's crimson dragons are famous for this one). Reason being is it's easier for players to "hack and slash" then to think logically. Also, other players can't come by and "screw things up" if they just hack and slash. Dark fathers are famous for players not knowing how to attack them so they fire field them or do dot damage and litter the place with unholy bones.Minky wrote: Why does difficult within UO ALWAYS have to mean hits for 100 dmg and has 50k hp? Why can't difficult be smarter, have more skills, hit for waaaaay less, but have incredible armor where it requires a group? Why can't it spawn 4 lesser versions with 5k hp that do nothing but prevent the main target from dying, until they're dead? Why does "UO Difficult" HAVE to mean more damage to the player?
Ha! You have just described Shimmering Effusion. Unfortunately, it has all those lesser versions AND hits for 100dmg AND has 50k hp AND spams spells like there's no tomorrow with unlimited manaMinky wrote:Why does difficult within UO ALWAYS have to mean hits for 100 dmg and has 50k hp? Why can't difficult be smarter, have more skills, hit for waaaaay less, but have incredible armor where it requires a group? Why can't it spawn 4 lesser versions with 5k hp that do nothing but prevent the main target from dying, until they're dead? Why does "UO Difficult" HAVE to mean more damage to the player?Difficulty does not equal balance. The more difficult something is the more fun it is to do, and the more rewarding it is to finish it.
:This is because people will find ways to make it very easy and do shit load of damage. The only true way to make a boss actually hold up to itself is to crank the HP. Even then, I've heard of people doing like 200+ damage per hit in pvm.Minky wrote:Why does difficult within UO ALWAYS have to mean hits for 100 dmg and has 50k hp? Why can't difficult be smarter, have more skills, hit for waaaaay less, but have incredible armor where it requires a group? Why can't it spawn 4 lesser versions with 5k hp that do nothing but prevent the main target from dying, until they're dead? Why does "UO Difficult" HAVE to mean more damage to the player?Difficulty does not equal balance. The more difficult something is the more fun it is to do, and the more rewarding it is to finish it.
ok, for future discussions you can quote me on this. Eventually, the staff is going to release a new more advanced AI, one that thinks like a player would, except reacts with lightning speed because it simply thinks faster then you do because your are a human and its a machine.dprantl wrote:Ha! You have just described Shimmering Effusion. Unfortunately, it has all those lesser versions AND hits for 100dmg AND has 50k hp AND spams spells like there's no tomorrow with unlimited manaMinky wrote:Why does difficult within UO ALWAYS have to mean hits for 100 dmg and has 50k hp? Why can't difficult be smarter, have more skills, hit for waaaaay less, but have incredible armor where it requires a group? Why can't it spawn 4 lesser versions with 5k hp that do nothing but prevent the main target from dying, until they're dead? Why does "UO Difficult" HAVE to mean more damage to the player?Difficulty does not equal balance. The more difficult something is the more fun it is to do, and the more rewarding it is to finish it.