assisted suicide

fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:16 pm

what are your opinions on this?

i see nothing wrong with it. if that person wants to die, then so be it, it should be their right to end their suffering.

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:44 pm

If they are suffering from disease or illness of some kind but I don't agree with for any other reason. Like, I hate my life I want to die, my boyfriend dumped me so I want to die...reasons like that. I just don't agree with all cases. So there fore I don't think It should be legal.

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:46 pm

Minnie wrote: So there fore I don't think It should be legal.

not even for those suffering terminal illness?

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:47 pm

fragged one wrote: not even for those suffering terminal illness?

I am not sure, I have mixed feelings on this. I don't think anyone should be playing god here..

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:49 pm

we play god all the time...

should we not save lives, either?

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:56 pm

fragged one wrote: we play god all the time...

should we not save lives, either?

Saving lives and killing someone is pretty diffferant fragged...Things happen for a reason, saving a life is a reaction of humanity to help someone out of goodness. Assisted suicide is murder and is not doing goodness by granting death!

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:59 pm

Minnie wrote: Saving lives and killing someone is pretty diffferant fragged...Things happen for a reason, saving a life is a reaction of humanity to help someone out of goodness. Assisted suicide is murder and is not doing goodness by granting death!

i disagree...i can see them both in the same light

is it really humane and good to allow someone to be immobilized by so much pain, suffering, and embarassment?

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:01 pm

fragged one wrote: i disagree...i can see them both in the same light
is it really humane and good to allow someone to be immobilized by so much pain, suffering, and embarassment?

I can see that being justified..but what about the other situations. How do you put limitations on assisted suicide..to whom is the reason good enough to make it legal? Because you or I say so? Because a doctor say so?

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:05 pm

Minnie wrote: I can see that being justified..but what about the other situations. How do you put limitations on assisted suicide..to whom is the reason good enough to make it legal? Because you or I say so? Because a doctor say so?

well, that is to be debated...

but i'm not going to tell someone else whether they can or not, i think it should be their choice.

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:09 pm

fragged one wrote: well, that is to be debated...

but i'm not going to tell someone else whether they can or not, i think it should be their choice.

ya there choice, so your telling me that if someone commits suicide it's right? it's ok?

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fragged one · Post by **fragged one** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:16 pm

Minnie wrote: ya there choice, so your telling me that if someone commits suicide it's right? it's ok?

i may not think it's right...but it's still their choice.

same as homosexuality...i'm not going to be homosexual, but others will.

same as religion...i'm not converting to judaism, but others do.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:32 pm

I’d prefer someone dying painlessly than someone dying…oh say…by a shot in the head.

This is one of the topics I wish would just go away. It’s very depressing.

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Minnie · Post by **Minnie** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:38 pm

I said I have mixed feeling about it...I don't know whether i agree or not..

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manadren · Post by **manadren** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:06 am

If someone wants to end their own life, who has the right to tell them no? Isn't it those who oppose assisted suicide the ones playing god by forcing someone to live against their own will?

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:19 am

I hate my life I want to die, my boyfriend dumped me so I want to die...reasons like that. I just don't agree with all cases. So there fore I don't think It should be legal.

Why would people with reasons like this be in need of assisted suicide? Could they not just kill themselves? I think the purpose of assisted suicide is to assist someone who is too weak or too sick to end their own pain and suffering.

How do you put limitations on assisted suicide..to whom is the reason good enough to make it legal?

If it were legal, I think the only acceptable scenario would be

If they are suffering from disease or illness of some kind

Helping perfectly healthy or non-terminally ill people kill themselves would still be illegal.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:46 pm

If the person is suffering and won't get out of it, yes I think it should be ok to pull the plug on them. But I'm not 100% sure if I want to agree or not.. it's a touchy subject. Thing is, a person that needs 5 nurses to take care of is not only suffering and can't do anything with their lives, but is also using up allot of resources that can go towards other patiants that have a chance of making it.

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:51 am

I'm all for assisted death by Pokemon!

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Ultimate_Bass · Post by **Ultimate_Bass** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:02 pm

Minnie
use this as an example if you were blind and deaf and brain dead and were eating out of a straw and you couldnt walk or do nothing at all just sit there would you want to live still or would you just want to die it like you where floating in you own little tothingness i know it would be fun for a while but then you would be bored i know i would want to die eventually

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:00 pm

Please let them do it! I am sick of old people who cant do anything for themselves who just want to get it overwith. Then they can stop draining my social security!!

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:55 pm

If I was in that position I'd want to die. Heck, if I lost my fingers or legs I'd probably want to die. Just the fact of having to rely on some artificial way to get around would really suck. But seriously if I was in a situation where I can't do absolutly nothing, I'd rather just get a clean shot in the head or something else painless. you have to admire people like Helen Keller that made it through life in such horrible condition though. Being born that way is I guess snot as bad as if it happends midlife but you don't get to see the world at all which sucks.

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:20 pm

VictorEM83 wrote: I am sick of old people who cant do anything for themselves who just want to get it overwith. Then they can stop draining my social security!!

Do you have any grandparents? Did you kill them when they stopped being able to "do anything for themselves?"

We end up at the same place, but your motives almost make me want to disagree with you. How can you be sick of old people who live their life in constant suffering and want nothing more than to end that suffering? Do they come whining to you everyday when they want their lives to end? I understand you feel they're "draining you social security," but damn man, find some empathy somewhere in there. Someday you will also be an old person. If you're going to be for ending the suffering of dying individuals, do it for their sake, not your own.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:32 pm

My point was let them kill themselves if they want! What is someone going to put them in jail after the funeral? Buy them a bottle of vodka and let them take all their pain killers so they can be in peace and stop wasting my money.

Hey if you buy them booze and they take all their pain killers make sure you dont mention you bought the booze for that reason, say it was for thier night caps

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shenbaw · Post by **shenbaw** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:27 pm

I know what your point was. Your point wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about the thoughts that made you arrive at it.

Oh yeah, for further reference, when people talk about assisted suicide, they're not talking about someone buying them a bottle of vodka.

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VictorEM83 · Post by **VictorEM83** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:32 pm

not so quickly if the botle of vodka is used to chase a bottle of pills and it kills the person, if it was bought for that reason, and could not have otherwise been obtained by that person it is an illegal act becuse you assisted in a suicide.

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Raptomex · Post by **Raptomex** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:55 am

If a person wants to die, I say find out why first. Just don't go and kill them. If their suffering and they can't be cured then, ok. But only if they want to.

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