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- Red Squirrel
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Wow Steve is pissed off.
I hope M$ looses though.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/micr...5302772214.html
Microsoft Corp. CEO Steve Ballmer vowed to "kill" internet search leader Google Inc. in an obscenity-laced tirade, and Google chased a prized Microsoft executive "like wolves," according to documents filed in an increasingly bitter legal battle between the rivals.
The allegations, filed in a Washington state court, represent the latest salvos in a showdown triggered by Google's July hiring of former Microsoft executive Kai Fu-Lee to oversee a research and development centre that Google plans to open in China. Lee started at Google the day after he resigned from Microsoft.
The tug-of-war over Lee - known for his work on computer recognition of language - has exposed the behind-the-scenes animosity that has been brewing between two of high-tech's best-known companies.
Ballmer's threat last November was recounted in a sworn declaration by a former Microsoft engineer, Mark Lucovsky, who said he met with Microsoft's chief executive 10 months ago to discuss his decision to leave the company after six years.
After learning Lucovsky was leaving to take a job at Google, Ballmer picked up his chair and hurled it across his office, according to the declaration.
Ballmer then pejoratively berated Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Lucovsky recalled.
"I'm going to f---ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again," the declaration quotes Ballmer. "I'm going to f---ing kill Google."
Before joining Google, Schmidt was a top executive at Sun Microsystems Inc. and Novell Inc., a pair of tech companies that Microsoft has previously battled.
In a statement, Ballmer described Lucovsky's recollection as a "gross exaggeration. Mark's decision to leave was disappointing and I urged him strongly to change his mind. But his characterization of that meeting is not accurate."
Microsoft is suing to prevent Lee from leading Google's China expansion, maintaining those duties would violate the terms of a noncompete agreement that he signed as part of his employment contract.
Google has depicted Microsoft's lawsuit as a form of intimidation designed to thwart a fast-growing rival that has emerged as a formidable threat to the software maker.
The Lucovsky declaration is just one piece of evidence that Google has filed in an attempt to prove that Microsoft is on a vendetta.
Microsoft won the first round in the case in late July when King County Superior Court Judge Steven Gonzalez issued an order temporarily barring Lee from performing the duties that Google hired him to do.
The two rivals are scheduled to face off in court on Tuesday when Microsoft will ask Gonzalez to extend the order against Lee and Google until the case goes to trial in January.
As it tries to make its case, Microsoft is trying to demonstrate that Google wanted Lee largely because he knows intimate details about Microsoft's strategy for expanding in China and for the booming search engine market.
In its brief, Microsoft alleged that Lee sent confidential documents about the company's China strategy to Google a month before he was hired, although Google insists all the material that Lee relayed to Google had been made public previously.
Microsoft also released an email from Jonathan Rosenberg, Google's director of business development, in an attempt to prove the company wants Lee for other projects besides the new China centre.
"I all but insist that we pull out all the stops and pursue him like wolves," Rosenberg wrote of Lee. "He is an all-star and will contribute in ways that go substantially beyond China."
Before resigning from Microsoft, Lee began to help Google plot its China strategy with a series of suggestions, including recommending possible sites for the new office, according to Microsoft's brief.
Microsoft alleged Lee's insights helped him win a Google contract worth more than $US10 million ($13.14 million) - a package that Google itself described as "unprecedented" for the company.
Google paid Lee a $US2.5 million signing bonus and promised a $US1.5 million bonus after one year, plus a $US250,000 salary and options on 10,000 shares of Google stock, according to court documents.
If he stays for four years, Lee also will receive another 20,000 Google shares, currently worth $US5.8 million.
Lee also demanded that Google pay all his legal fees if Microsoft sued, a request that was granted.
AAP
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I hope M$ looses though.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/micr...5302772214.html
Microsoft Corp. CEO Steve Ballmer vowed to "kill" internet search leader Google Inc. in an obscenity-laced tirade, and Google chased a prized Microsoft executive "like wolves," according to documents filed in an increasingly bitter legal battle between the rivals.
The allegations, filed in a Washington state court, represent the latest salvos in a showdown triggered by Google's July hiring of former Microsoft executive Kai Fu-Lee to oversee a research and development centre that Google plans to open in China. Lee started at Google the day after he resigned from Microsoft.
The tug-of-war over Lee - known for his work on computer recognition of language - has exposed the behind-the-scenes animosity that has been brewing between two of high-tech's best-known companies.
Ballmer's threat last November was recounted in a sworn declaration by a former Microsoft engineer, Mark Lucovsky, who said he met with Microsoft's chief executive 10 months ago to discuss his decision to leave the company after six years.
After learning Lucovsky was leaving to take a job at Google, Ballmer picked up his chair and hurled it across his office, according to the declaration.
Ballmer then pejoratively berated Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Lucovsky recalled.
"I'm going to f---ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again," the declaration quotes Ballmer. "I'm going to f---ing kill Google."
Before joining Google, Schmidt was a top executive at Sun Microsystems Inc. and Novell Inc., a pair of tech companies that Microsoft has previously battled.
In a statement, Ballmer described Lucovsky's recollection as a "gross exaggeration. Mark's decision to leave was disappointing and I urged him strongly to change his mind. But his characterization of that meeting is not accurate."
Microsoft is suing to prevent Lee from leading Google's China expansion, maintaining those duties would violate the terms of a noncompete agreement that he signed as part of his employment contract.
Google has depicted Microsoft's lawsuit as a form of intimidation designed to thwart a fast-growing rival that has emerged as a formidable threat to the software maker.
The Lucovsky declaration is just one piece of evidence that Google has filed in an attempt to prove that Microsoft is on a vendetta.
Microsoft won the first round in the case in late July when King County Superior Court Judge Steven Gonzalez issued an order temporarily barring Lee from performing the duties that Google hired him to do.
The two rivals are scheduled to face off in court on Tuesday when Microsoft will ask Gonzalez to extend the order against Lee and Google until the case goes to trial in January.
As it tries to make its case, Microsoft is trying to demonstrate that Google wanted Lee largely because he knows intimate details about Microsoft's strategy for expanding in China and for the booming search engine market.
In its brief, Microsoft alleged that Lee sent confidential documents about the company's China strategy to Google a month before he was hired, although Google insists all the material that Lee relayed to Google had been made public previously.
Microsoft also released an email from Jonathan Rosenberg, Google's director of business development, in an attempt to prove the company wants Lee for other projects besides the new China centre.
"I all but insist that we pull out all the stops and pursue him like wolves," Rosenberg wrote of Lee. "He is an all-star and will contribute in ways that go substantially beyond China."
Before resigning from Microsoft, Lee began to help Google plot its China strategy with a series of suggestions, including recommending possible sites for the new office, according to Microsoft's brief.
Microsoft alleged Lee's insights helped him win a Google contract worth more than $US10 million ($13.14 million) - a package that Google itself described as "unprecedented" for the company.
Google paid Lee a $US2.5 million signing bonus and promised a $US1.5 million bonus after one year, plus a $US250,000 salary and options on 10,000 shares of Google stock, according to court documents.
If he stays for four years, Lee also will receive another 20,000 Google shares, currently worth $US5.8 million.
Lee also demanded that Google pay all his legal fees if Microsoft sued, a request that was granted.
AAP
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I'd feel bad for that poor Lee guy, getting Microsoft's goons after him. But he's got Google's support and I hope that Google burns Microsoft hardcore. I mean, comparable, think of all the bad crap Microsoft has done throught the years compared to google. Microsoft is just becomming more and more competitive and wants to sue everyone so that they can get rid of the competition. In this debate, I'd gladly stand by Google.
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- Red Squirrel
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Oh yeah me too for sure. And sure he probably signed a contract and all so he can't go work for competition, but I don't think it's right to do that, I can understand disclosure of confidential information, but not removing the right to go work for a different company, competition or not.
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Ya, for example, what if he got fired or layed off? Where's he gonna go. 6 years of programming experience and he can't even work for the highest paying industries because of that contract? Sounds like BS to me.Red Squirrel wrote: Oh yeah me too for sure. And sure he probably signed a contract and all so he can't go work for competition, but I don't think it's right to do that, I can understand disclosure of confidential information, but not removing the right to go work for a different company, competition or not.
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That one's actually old news.... about two months ago if I remember right. The thing with Lee is he signed an agreement that doesn't necessarily forbid him from working for the competition but that forbids him from doing things that are closely related to what he did during his tenure at Microsoft and that may exhude confidential information from him that was gained while he was employed at MS for the benifit of the competitive company. Besides, there was probably a point in the agreement that dealt with termination of employment through involuntary means (ex: getting fired or constructive dismissal (layoff)).
Just goes to show you to read before you sign on the dotted line. Congrats to Google for pulling the fruits from someone else's garded, cudos to Microsoft for protecting it's interests as it relates to employment agreements, but I disagree with Google's decision to fund Lee's legal fees if MS were to pursue him for breach of contract.
Remember though, that part of the above article is probably blown out of proportion based on the innacurate quotes of Steve Ballmer.
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Just goes to show you to read before you sign on the dotted line. Congrats to Google for pulling the fruits from someone else's garded, cudos to Microsoft for protecting it's interests as it relates to employment agreements, but I disagree with Google's decision to fund Lee's legal fees if MS were to pursue him for breach of contract.
Remember though, that part of the above article is probably blown out of proportion based on the innacurate quotes of Steve Ballmer.
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- rovingcowboy
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I don't feel bad for that lee guy ?
he can name his price with both the big guys wanting him to be on their side.?
sounds like he is the man with the plan to me.
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he can name his price with both the big guys wanting him to be on their side.?
sounds like he is the man with the plan to me.
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Go GOOGLE! Microsoft is just trying to run the PC industry, they FEAR Google, if truth be known. I mean, what big-time PC-based company WOULDN'T fear Google? What started as a simple search engine, now has amazing((yes, I find GMail amazing)) email, and a pretty awesome rising IM program. There will be a day when alot of us are turning on our PCs to see our Google OS's start screen.
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Yes I see it coming too, google making an OS. They'd probably start with something small based on linux or something and it would end up going corporate.
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I'll download it. I am the head "Use everything Google makes clan™" or UEGMC (I just made it) I am looking for people to join!
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I thought you hated Google? Or is that another IceTeks member?
I'll be your first member!
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I'll be your first member!
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I used to hate google then they made google earth.
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You're Mik aren't you?LORD DRATHCO wrote: I used to hate google then they made google earth.
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yea. lol name change confuzaled ppl
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MULTIPLE name changes, St Stick!LORD DRATHCO wrote: yea. lol name change confuzaled ppl
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