Found a Router

[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Alright, so my mom's friend who knows nothing about computers found a sound card in her friends house and automatically thought of me. She brought it over asking if I had any use for it, and of course I agreed to take it, hell, might be better than my built-in sound card.

So about an hour ago my dad opens the box to find an ethernet cable... Ok.. Strange. After that came a basic phone cable, followed by a D-Link WAN router. Has no wireless antennas or anything, so use with my PSP is out. Then I had an idea. You see, my mom gave me her computer((if you remember from when I first joined, I asked about setting it up as a server)). I want to do 1((or 2 or 3)) of 3 things.

1. Use the router to send my cable internet signal from my PC to her PC as to set them both up online.

2. Use to to wire the two PCs together as a network, allowing me to access both computers from one. It will allow me more HDD space((by using hers as backup storage or something.

3. Figure a way to send the internet signal to the router, and from the router to my PS2 so I can play Ratchet 3 online.

Any ideas there, Red?

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[Red Squirrel]

This might require drilling through walls and stuff, but here's what you do.

Plug your internet line (the ethernet jack that is probably plugged directly into your pc right now) into the uplink port of the router, then plug each computer into a normal port, and if you have Xbox live or what not, you can even plug that in it too. They'll all have internet, and you'll be able to access each PC given the permissions/protocols are installed on each PC. Now that I think of it, I don't have a really advanced networking tutorial I should write one.

One thing with a router, make sure you log in to it (usually http://192.168.1.1 - check instructions) and change the default password, and disable remote administration if there's an option. In this setup you can also forward any ports, if needed (ex: if you play any games that need to act as server)

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

This would be all fine and dandy if...

1. I had a wired network to begin with.

2. I had a cable modem in my room((where my wirelessly connected PC is)).

See, we use a wireless Linksys router((which pretty much sucks if you ask me)). And we only have one modem, provided by whoever works with Brighthouse Networks((formerly TimeWarner)).

Is there any way I could buy a cheap cable modem that would work in my room? I know we use to have two cable modems((our old one, and the new one from when we moved into our new house)). We tried the old one, it didn't work. So, does the internet or cable company whatever have to turn on the modem or whatever? I know they are able to turn off and reset the internet, they had to do it for us a few times.

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[Red Squirrel]

Oh is the modem one of those crappy USB ones? If yes you'll have to setup your computer to do NAT and connect the router to it with a cross over cable. I've never setted up a PC to do NAT before but I dont think it's too hard. You need some type of internet connection sharing software.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Actually, my dad is using a USB internet... thing. Mine is a wireless NIC card. Did I spell that right? Whatever. It's actually in my computer, I have an antenna sticking out of the back of my PC. I want to know if there's a way((which probably has a 99% chance of there being a way)) to send the signal it's picking up OUT of my PC and to this D-Link Ethernet Broadband router. That would be pretty cool and it would allow me to hook up my PS2, and future PS3, Xbox 360, and Nintendo Revo for online play.

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[Red Squirrel]

Where are you getting that signal from, if the modem is plugged into your Dad's computer? Does he have a wireless card too? Sounds like his computer is actually already setup to do NAT, so all you really have to do is uplink the router into his computer by adding another NIC in it. (not sure if that can even be done though, can't see why not)

But this would be an ackward network. My suggestion is to setup a PC as NAT, plug in the wired router into it, and plug in the wireless into the wired router, you can either have it as two isolated networks, or setup the wireless to not do DHCP and only act as a switch. Lot of options, really.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Actually, our modem is currently standing alone connected solely to the wireless router, which is transmitting the signal to:

1. My dad's PC.

2. My PC.

3. My PSP((For firmware updates, downloadable game content, and online play)).

I'm reading up on NAT software, and supposedly you NEED two NIC cards. I'm NOT buying another NIC card. The only reason my dad would fork out more money for one would be to put it in my mom's PC and get her up and running. Though she also needs a monitor.

So here is how it goes:

Modem in the living room recieving the cable signal.

Modem is plugged into the wireless router, which transmits the signal to the USB reciever on my dads PC, and the NIC card in mine.

In the old house when we had three computers set up, one was always plugged into the modem.

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[Red Squirrel]

Oh I see, so does the wireless router also have wired ports? If yes, you can just plug the new router in it, either set it up as a seperate network or disable the router portion and use it as a switch for more ports.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Yes, it has four ethernet ports if I'm not mistaken. The thing is, it's in the living room. Where as my PC, is in my room. Hooking up a non-wireless router to another router that serves the same purpose is, well, pointless.

And just now realising my PC is lacking an ethernet port, I realised none of my ideas will work. God, and I really want to use this router for something.

Hm... Maybe I can strip it and use the parts for something else. But what....

It would be awesome if I would be able to make a wireless reciever that has an ethernet port on it. Then I could plug it into the router, and BAM! Done. But, I can't. Not all that great with soldering, cutting things, etc.

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[Red Squirrel]

Yeah I think the only way is to run an ethernet cable from that router to your room. Maybe make a deal with your parants that they can hire a professional and you'll pay for it or something. That's what I did to run one from downstairs to my room. I could of done it, but figured it would be easier to get someone who has the right tools and such... and that way I did not have to worry about screwing up and getting in trouble.

There's not really any usable parts in a router, at least not a small soho one, basically just a circuit board with leds and jacks. If it was a cisco router, then maybe, since those are nearly PCs. Well even a small one is like a PC but everything is more hard wired, like the OS and all.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Any money that I make has to go towards my next-gen consoles. So... THAT'S out of the question.

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[Red Squirrel]

But if the walls/location etc is not too complicated you can always attempt to do it yourself too. That's another option.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Well, I'd have to wire it ALL the way around the living room in the walls. Maybe when I get hom I'll make a diagram of my house and show you what I'd have to do.

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[Red Squirrel]

Yeah runing in walls is almost impossible because of the studs. But you could try and see if you can shove it under the baseboard, but ethernet is kinda thick so it would not be easy. But given only 4 wires are needed you could strip them out and go without the insulation, but the problem is that they'd be much more imune to interfeerenceas they would loose their twistyness.

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[Pyr-O-Rgasm]

Here, I made a simple diagram to show you locations and what-not. Sizing is probably no where near accurate, but it's mainly the placement that is important.



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[Red Squirrel]

Ouch yeah seems like it would be a hard setup to do. Almost have to make the wire go up the wall, into the attic and then down to your room. But then again, might actually not be too bad if the attic is easly accessable, since you just have to cut the square hole in the wall for a jack, fish the wire down from the attic and try to find it through the jack hole, wire it up to a jack and install it in the wall, then do the same for your room. So you'd have 2 jacks that are wired together, and then you'd just need 2 small patch cords at both ends to connect it.

But this also involves spending some money a bit.

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