Front page...

MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:05 pm

Hi i have just started making my own website in Microsoft Front page... Is there anyone who could tell me how i could publish it to the web useing Shaw?

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:40 pm

With a quick Google search, I found this.

I wish your Web site the best.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:54 pm

Thanks i have a bit of screwing around to do because it's going wired. But anyway here is the URL http://members.shaw.ca/mike-db

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:40 pm

bump
(updated site)

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:49 pm

Avoid frontpage at all cost, if you want to use a wysiwyg try dream weaver. Front page is the oposite, it will weave your page into a nightmare. Look at the source code of some of the older articles here compared to the newer ones, the older ones are made in front page.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:11 pm

it does not matter really for me because im not the one who handles the money its my parents and my site seems to be doing just fine

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rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:22 am

yep your site will work with front page but be warned.

front page will add in things that ms thought should be in your html code that were not selected by the internet governing body as normal html code.

so you have in your html code lots of things that other browers don't know so they either send an error alert or forget the code and ingor it all together.

like adding background music. or sound.

ms uses the tag

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<background sound= "">[code]   only ie or possible ie knock off browers will see that.

it is far better to use the embed tag [code]<embed scr= "">   [code]

if you use front page  i suggest going to the site for first page 2000 and getting that program it is an html text editor not a wysiwyg one.  but it will clean up your code for you.  

also if you get 1st page 2000  remember they add in free javascripts,  when you get it.  there is one for a fake virus so your av program will send alert warning just ignor the alert,  download the program  install the program then go to the folder you put it in and look for its folder of free javascripts,  then delete the fake virus script the av program wont alert you anymore.

good luck. :awesome:  

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Streety · Post by **Streety** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:30 pm

There is no index page so it's possible to see the directory structure which you may want to get fixed.

Am I meant to be able to access this?

http://members.shaw.ca/mike-db/_private/form_results.txt

I suspect not.

As for the background music please don't do it in anyway. If you absolutely HAVE to do it though use the IE only tags, that way i'll be able to ignore it in firefox.

Should you use frontpage? Well I suppose it is up to you, personally I write all my html myself, I don't use any WYSIWYG editors. It's more difficult in that you actually have to understand what you're doing but you have finer control over the output and your pages load faster (maybe not important for you but will be for some of your visitors).

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rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:42 pm

no no now streety what you ment to say was
as for the background sound please use the embed code but INCLUDE the player controls so the visiter to your site can play the sound or not play the sound.

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rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:46 pm

by fixing the structure he means to make an index.html page and put your links on it that way nobody can see anything but your index.html page

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:00 pm

[quote=rovingcowboy] it is far better to use the embed tag

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<embed scr= "">   [code][/quote]
<embed> has never been part of a W3C recommendation.  Those wanting to have standard pages should use [url=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/objects.html#h-13.3]<object>[/url] instead.  <object> can do <embed>’s job and more, but the latter is unfortunately supported by more browsers.  For those who aren’t aiming for 100% standard pages, I would suggest placing an <embed> within an <object> to cover the most browsers possible.

Mikwiththestick, if you have a Web site, I highly suggest learning about HTML and his lovers.  It will come in handy, and it’s a [i]great[/i] way to pass time!  A good place to start out is [url=http://www.w3schools.com/]W3Schools[/url].  Of course, the appropriate [url=http://www.w3.org/TR/#Recommendations]W3C Recommendations[/url] are helpful as well.  :)  

Where is the updated Web site?  :)   

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:56 pm

is there really sounds on my site? Welll whatever... I need to know how to make a login feature (example: Username _____________ Password _____________)

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:36 am

For login you'll need to use some scripting, like php (recommended) or asp.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:52 pm

ok i know what your talking about

so where can i get it? or would i have to make it all on my own?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:56 pm

Check out the php tutorials on here, they should help you get started on making a basic login system.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:07 am

ok thanks.
I memorized some C++ or at least i think it is.

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
printf("Hello, world
");

return 0;
}

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:11 am

where can i find the tutorials?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:01 am

In the article section.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:22 am

what one should i read?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:26 am

I'd start with the intro one, as it puts the most essense on using POST forms and such.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:56 am

ok thanks.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:00 am

np. If you have any questions let me know.

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:01 am

well i already have one...
How much stuff for php do i need to download?

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MikeDB · Post by **MikeDB** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:09 am

[quote=Tak] [quote=rovingcowboy] it is far better to use the embed tag

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<embed scr= "">   [code][/quote]
<embed> has never been part of a W3C recommendation.  Those wanting to have standard pages should use [url=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/objects.html#h-13.3]<object>[/url] instead.  <object> can do <embed>’s job and more, but the latter is unfortunately supported by more browsers.  For those who aren’t aiming for 100% standard pages, I would suggest placing an <embed> within an <object> to cover the most browsers possible.

Mikwiththestick, if you have a Web site, I highly suggest learning about HTML and his lovers.  It will come in handy, and it’s a [i]great[/i] way to pass time!  A good place to start out is [url=http://www.w3schools.com/]W3Schools[/url].  Of course, the appropriate [url=http://www.w3.org/TR/#Recommendations]W3C Recommendations[/url] are helpful as well.  :)  

Where is the updated Web site?  :) [/quote]
 sorry i was reading threw it really fast. I really dont need it because even tho my dad now lives half way across the country he still e-mails me with a lot of html and tells me to read it over and stick it in there like this thingy here.

[code]<HTML>

 

<HEAD>

<TITLE>My Home Page</TITLE>

 

</HEAD>

 

<script language="VBScript">

 

sub WriteText

TestField.Value = "Da Test"

End Sub

 

Function GoToPage(s)

      window.location.href = s

   End Function

 

 

</SCRIPT>

 

 

<BODY bgcolor="#D4D0C8">

 

 

 

 

 

<input type="text" name="TestField"  value="" size="60"/>


 

 

<input type="button" onclick="WriteText" value="Write some text to a text box">



 

<input type="button" value="Google" onclick="GoToPage('http://www.google.com')">



 

<a href="http://www.google.com">This is a short cut to Google</a>



 

<input type="button" value="Link to HTML Tags" onclick="GoToPage('http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_reference.asp')">



 

</body>

</html>

[code]

So i basicly have a cheat sheet. :P 

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:11 am

You'll just need a seperate box to act as server. I recomend debian but it can be done in windows too. get php, mysql and apache setup. not the easiest thing to do when it's your first time though, took me months to get it the first time. but once you have it, you're good to work with php scripts. You can also buy a hosting package and test online, though it's more convinient with a home server as you can setup a shared drive, hit save, then refresh, rather then have to upload via ftp every time.

You could also get VMware and setup the server in a virtual machine running on the same PC.

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