jack of all trades / super monster AI [complete]

Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:35 am

I'm working on a new monster AI that I'm calling jackofalltradesAI because rather then being specific to a skill like mage/necro AI, it will use any skills at its disposal. I'm setting it so if it has 0.1 or more of a skill, it will use it.

My plans are to impliment the following skills into the AI:

-magery
-necro
-SS (direct use)
-chivalry
-bushido
-ninjitsu
-spellweaving
-healing/vet
-peacemaking (on creatures only)
-discordance (on creatures only)
-alchemy (mostly to heal/cure, but might make it chuck explosion pots)
-hiding
-stealth

I will try to impliment most spells excluding summons and such (revenant is about only exeption)

Any mobile that I give this AI to, if it has those skills it uses them. So I give that AI to a ronin and give it bushido and healing, it will use bushido and healing.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:45 am

Hiding and stealth. I can think of at least a few monsters that could use that AI instead of hardcoding it in the script

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:52 am

Yep forgot about those, added them.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:53 am

Red Squirrel wrote:Yep forgot about those, added them.

ADDED them or "currently adding them"?

:

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:56 am

Bartok wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote:Yep forgot about those, added them.
ADDED them or "currently adding them"? :

Added them to the post not the code.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:57 am

Red Squirrel wrote:
Bartok wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote:Yep forgot about those, added them.
ADDED them or "currently adding them"? :
Added them to the post not the code.

Was going to say "Damn that was fast"

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Nosferatu · Post by **Nosferatu** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:47 am

Yeah i can see a monster throwing explosion pots

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Wed May 30, 2007 12:02 pm

Demitel + explo pot throwing AI = fun.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:04 pm

I have done lot of progress, but still lot more to do, basicaly so far the AI can use chiv, ninjitsu, bushido, necro, magery and spellweaving. Also, mobs with very low melee combat skill including wrestling will not try to melee you. So things like liches, vorpal chickens, and even rikktor (I'll fix him probably) will keep their distance from you. Thats of course assuming I give them this AI, as they currently have ai_mage, ai_melee etc

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:04 pm

If you can, try to incorporate provocation into the script. I noticed you have the peacemaking and discordance in the list which would be nice for satyrs but they would still be incomplete because of the missing provocation. Might as well have all 3 if you can put it in because it would greatly simplify the script and cut back the line count.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:18 pm

Yeah I can look into it, but I forgot how music skills often ask which instrument to play, so I'm really not sure how I'll handle that part for bard skills.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:24 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:Yeah I can look into it, but I forgot how music skills often ask which instrument to play, so I'm really not sure how I'll handle that part for bard skills.

Default to a flute? Or make a flag where you can choose the instrument.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:29 pm

Yeah or I'll see if I can bypass the instrument and make it call the bad functions directly

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:23 pm

I also left out throwing pots, figured it would of been easy, but it kept exploding on itself, was not targetting. Problem is the AIs seem to jump all over the place and cancel half their actions by trying to do actions before the last one was done, I've set delays I did everything but it does not work. So the AI is mostly limited to spells.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:08 pm

Running into lot of issues, AI just just getting dumber and dumber, now its not even fleeing properly, it only walks 2 tiles then thinks its safe, half the time spells don't even go through properly since it spams too fast, other times it wont even cast anything at all and just sit there and take damage.

I'm probably going to put this aside since I've been wasting lot of time on this which could be used for something more noticable.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:37 pm

All in all, its ready to go, just working on a few tweaks, theres still some targetting issues and such, but those have always existed even in the other AIs and are not that noticable outside of debug mode, so I'll let that slip by. It will most likely go in soon.

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Nexus Graveheart · Post by **Nexus Graveheart** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:41 pm

Congrats, glad to hear you managed to work through those problems you said you were having. Although I'm sure some mobs are going to much tougher now....

*wonders how hard a mongbat with uber skills and jack of all trades AI will be*

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:54 pm

Mobs should be about the same actually. At one point I had the DF going in total berserk mode as if it was a pker with 5000 mana, but I toned it down a bit. The issue I still cant fix is about 80% of spells get canceled out by other spells since it casts too fast and skips "isalreadycasting" checks sometimes.

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Nexus Graveheart · Post by **Nexus Graveheart** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:06 pm

Hmm, maybe put a small pause somewhere in there before it says "isalreadycasting". That might cancel out that skip and it will cast that spell and then continue on with whatever it was going to do next.

But then again, I have no idea how to code......

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:30 pm

yeah I've tried all sort of stuff like this. But I noticed for a few spells I forgot to add the "wait" (which invokes a small delay by default) so it *could* be that.

I got my detect hidden/reveil working just now. It's freaken sweet. It just casts reveil if it has magery, or uses detect hidden if it has that skill, or both if it has both skills, then targets random land tiles. So rather then DF reveiling everyone around in one shot (which is unrealistic) it will randomly hit random floor tiles to try and find people. But if its busy fighting, it wont try as often, since it already has someone fighting, but if its just wandering around, then it will try to search for a victim. I was testing it with a range of only 2 tiles so it has a better chance of hitting me but I think I'll be setting it to like 10 or whatever the range of the specified spell/skill is. So if you run and hide within 10 liches, chances are one will find you.

Its like that on OSI aparantly, though I'm not sure the logic behind how it works, maybe it just directly targets hidden people, since that *IS* possible as a monster can technically be coded to see anyone hidden, but its just not as realistic that way. The goal of the AI is to try to make them act like players in terms of skill use. Though resources get generated in thin air, stuff like bandages, arrows etc.

I'm not sure if current liches cast as much to keep disturbing my spells, but this one lich I was testing on... wow, I had to try like 10 times to cast invis

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:35 am

Little teasher rpv

http://www.uovalor.com/misc/new_ai_lich_fight.rpv

Showing the reveil, and general fighting. (notice how they keep distance to fight, since they have no reason to try and melee with 0 close range skill)

The text you see is just debug info, this wont actually show.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:45 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:Little teasher rpv

http://www.uovalor.com/misc/new_ai_lich_fight.rpv

Showing the reveil, and general fighting. (notice how they keep distance to fight, since they have no reason to try and melee with 0 close range skill)

The text you see is just debug info, this wont actually show.

Why'd it cast Curse Weapon, then?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:50 pm

Would be effective if it was holding a bow. Theres still a few little things like that to tweak. I just need to look more at the functions that check weapons to ensure it would not be too resource taking to have them check that all the time.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:54 pm

Hey that's cool. So can you now remove the Demitels' abilities to hit you while hidden/invised? I always thought that was kinda lame; it would be much more realistic if they started casting reveal all over the place.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:58 pm

They still hit if your hidden? They should not, thats never been coded. unless its an area attack like the crystal daemons, since any area attack hits hidden players and its always been that way.

And excuse my lack of appostrophes, firefox decided it would be cool to map that key to the search feature making the page jump all over the place if I try to use it. :\n
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