Anyone wana do Paracelsus lord of the Elements champ spawn

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:27 pm

anyone?

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:02 pm

me and molnar are going to do it in a sec join when ever you want

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:28 pm

cmon we need help

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:03 pm

dcter thunder and dirk are their come help where getting are asses kicked

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:05 pm

I tried to help, but those copper elems really suck now that they reflect spell damage. It was a lot more fun and realistically able to do before that change went into effect. I guess the staff thought it would make it more challenging. Yay, what a challenge. Good luck completing it.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:30 pm

everything docter said cmon red that is to much of a challange seriosly make it a it easyer

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:40 pm

Hint: deathblade.

I wont go into further details as to how you get one but some NPC might take a bit of gold and help you out a bit.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:33 pm

yea i know where i can get the deathblade npc

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:54 am

only bad thing is that the deathblade npc dies sooooo easily. It kills the first waves then just dies cant heal it quik enough

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d. · Post by d. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:29 am

Yeah, deathblade summoners SUCK. They can do nice damage, but end up dying super fast.

The fact that you NEED deathblades to do that spawn now should show a major flaw in it's design. People shouldn't have to rely on deathblade summoners, and they need a great buff to resists/hp/items. If they could be equipable, it would be so much better. Poison is what OWNS them though.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:26 pm

d. wrote: The fact that you NEED deathblades to do that spawn now should show a major flaw in it's design. People shouldn't have to rely on deathblade summoners, and they need a great buff to resists/hp/items. If they could be equipable, it would be so much better. Poison is what OWNS them though.

This is most certainly true. The abilities of ore elementals were not intended to affect that champ spawn. The abilities were put in to match OSI as well as to deter script mining. The effect on the Paracelsus champion spawn was an oversight.

There are plenty of other elementals that could take the place of the ore ones in the champion spawn. It could be changed to something more along these lines:

-Earth Elementals and Air Elementals
-Fire Elementals and Water Elementals
-Ice Elementals and Snow Elementals
-Poison Elementals and Blood Elementals

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Trill · Post by **Trill** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:36 pm

Death wrote:
d. wrote: The fact that you NEED deathblades to do that spawn now should show a major flaw in it's design. People shouldn't have to rely on deathblade summoners, and they need a great buff to resists/hp/items. If they could be equipable, it would be so much better. Poison is what OWNS them though.
This is most certainly true. The abilities of ore elementals were not intended to affect that champ spawn. The abilities were put in to match OSI as well as to deter script mining. The effect on the Paracelsus champion spawn was an oversight.

There are plenty of other elementals that could take the place of the ore ones in the champion spawn. It could be changed to something more along these lines:

-Earth Elementals and Air Elementals
-Fire Elementals and Water Elementals
-Ice Elementals and Snow Elementals
-Poison Elementals and Blood Elementals

This ^^ do it NOW!!

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d. · Post by d. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:36 pm

Death wrote:
d. wrote: The fact that you NEED deathblades to do that spawn now should show a major flaw in it's design. People shouldn't have to rely on deathblade summoners, and they need a great buff to resists/hp/items. If they could be equipable, it would be so much better. Poison is what OWNS them though.
This is most certainly true. The abilities of ore elementals were not intended to affect that champ spawn. The abilities were put in to match OSI as well as to deter script mining. The effect on the Paracelsus champion spawn was an oversight.

There are plenty of other elementals that could take the place of the ore ones in the champion spawn. It could be changed to something more along these lines:

-Earth Elementals and Air Elementals
-Fire Elementals and Water Elementals
-Ice Elementals and Snow Elementals
-Poison Elementals and Blood Elementals

I do think those changes would be far better, since the current spawn is just plain silly to try to do (especially without a deathblade summoner.)

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:43 pm

d. wrote:
Death wrote:
d. wrote: The fact that you NEED deathblades to do that spawn now should show a major flaw in it's design. People shouldn't have to rely on deathblade summoners, and they need a great buff to resists/hp/items. If they could be equipable, it would be so much better. Poison is what OWNS them though.
This is most certainly true. The abilities of ore elementals were not intended to affect that champ spawn. The abilities were put in to match OSI as well as to deter script mining. The effect on the Paracelsus champion spawn was an oversight.

There are plenty of other elementals that could take the place of the ore ones in the champion spawn. It could be changed to something more along these lines:

-Earth Elementals and Air Elementals
-Fire Elementals and Water Elementals
-Ice Elementals and Snow Elementals
-Poison Elementals and Blood Elementals
I do think those changes would be far better, since the current spawn is just plain silly to try to do (especially without a deathblade summoner.)

Alright, we can take a vote on if people would prefer the change as it seems the champ is a lot stronger than intended and is necessary to summon the elemental lord who's a beast alone. I will make a poll/thread later.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:49 pm

The stupid copper elementals is what ruins the champ. Go into a group of those and cast wither... I am surprised that Red hasnt replied with somn stupid like, "blood oath them, then you can kill them twice as fast!"

Don't you guys get it, these things frustrate players. Challenge = good. Frustration because a system or AI is flawed and impossible = bad.

On a side note, I am still thankful you guys took out the "run and china heal loop" AI.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:59 pm

DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:The stupid copper elementals is what ruins the champ. Go into a group of those and cast wither... I am surprised that Red hasnt replied with somn stupid like, "blood oath them, then you can kill them twice as fast!"

Don't you guys get it, these things frustrate players. Challenge = good. Frustration because a system or AI is flawed and impossible = bad.

On a side note, I am still thankful you guys took out the "run and china heal loop" AI.

We understand the frustration, which is why I have created a poll and a new thread to discuss the topic in greater detail.

AOV AI is custom to the shard and is still being tweaked. We aren't going to get it right the first time and I can think of at least several areas that should either be toned down or buffed up. AI's an ongoing project and we do take player feedback to heart, such as removing the constant looping and mega spam.

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ggkthx · Post by **ggkthx** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:34 am

As I mentioned in the poll, I don't think its frustrating or stupid, I think that spawn is awesome. You just can't take a cookie cutter approach to it like every other spawn.
And thanks for the LOL at even picturing someone running in there and spamming wither.
Not everything needs to be easy and a necro mage doesn't need to be able to solo everything. Just saying.

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