Mining Agapite with Gargoyle Pickaxe

Tristenne · Post by **Tristenne** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:21 pm

So there seems to be an issue that I'm not sure has been mentioned, but I tested it several times and it still holds true. When an agapite vein is found, and a gargoyle pickaxe is used, you start to dig up verite and verite elementals appear ... shouldn't it still be agapite?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:26 pm

Tristenne wrote:So there seems to be an issue that I'm not sure has been mentioned, but I tested it several times and it still holds true. When an agapite vein is found, and a gargoyle pickaxe is used, you start to dig up verite and verite elementals appear ... shouldn't it still be agapite?

Are you human or elf and are you mining in trammel or felucca?

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Nexus Graveheart · Post by **Nexus Graveheart** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:39 pm

The gargoyle pickaxe bumps the level of the ore, just like the sledgehammers you also get from bods (I can't remember the name of it at the moment).

Some people like to use both of them because you can jump from agapite to valorite. Or from iron to shadow iron.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:47 pm

Nexus Graveheart wrote:just like the sledgehammers you also get from bods (I can't remember the name of it at the moment).

Prospector's Tool.

And as nexus mentioned, a gargoyle's pick axe also bumps the ore level up 1. If you mined an agapite vein then switched to a gargoyle axe, it would go to the next highest ore type (Verite).

Try looking for a gold vein then switching to a gargoyle pick axe, that will bump it to agapite.

If something still seems off we'll take it from there.

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GustoMon · Post by **GustoMon** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:50 pm

Mining as a human, in Felucca. I had thought it was just the prospector tool that bumps it, not the gargoyle pickaxe. I thought those were for getting eles ... then again, I only used gargoyle pickaxes on valorite veins for the valorite eles.

So the gargoyle pickaxe DOES bump it? Interesting.... Thanks for the reply.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:53 pm

GustoMon wrote:Mining as a human, in Felucca. I had thought it was just the prospector tool that bumps it, not the gargoyle pickaxe. I had thought those were for getting eles.

So the gargoyle pickaxe DOES bump it? Interesting....

Ya, they both bump if memory serves me right. It's been that way in runuo for ages and people would often use a prospector's tool to bump the ore once, then the gargoyle axe to bump the level again (Effectively getting 2 ore levels higher).

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GustoMon · Post by **GustoMon** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:22 pm

Death wrote:It's been that way in runuo for ages

Ok so it is a RunUO thing .. didn't remember that on Chesapeake.

Death wrote:and people would often use a prospector's tool to bump the ore once, then the gargoyle axe to bump the level again (Effectively getting 2 ore levels higher).

That's exactly what ran through my head after reading about the 2 lol

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:27 pm

GustoMon wrote: Ok so it is a RunUO thing .. didn't remember that on Chesapeake.

I say runuo as there's a chance that they overlooked something. As good as runuo is, some things do not work as intended or they may have left out details.

It appears that they are supposed to stack as they do now, but personally, I'd prefer doing more in depth research to confirm.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:12 pm

Do prospector tools even work here? I don't recall coding that in.

Then again there's lot of stuff we have that I forgot I coded. I setup a SVN RunUO shard for checking something and there was so much stuff missing that I forgot I did lol.

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GustoMon · Post by **GustoMon** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:24 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:Do prospector tools even work here? I don't recall coding that in.

Yes they do. It bumps the vein up one.

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Plastic Man · Post by **Plastic Man** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:00 am

Yes Prospectors tools work. Gargoyle Axes also bump one. By using both it makes it FAR easier to get ANY level of ore. Thats usually my answer to anyone complaining about not getting enough of any type of ore. When I used to mine regulary I could get 500-1k of whatever type I was looking for eithing an hour or 2 of mining, be it gold or Valorite.

Also when using a Gargolye pick it seems to pay off to have the minging action scripted so you keep minging while chopping down eles (Yes, you can mine ore and still swing a sword at an ele) As if you keep mining I think the ore veins get mad at you and spoawn more eles (Generally if I keep minging while eles spawn it seems to spawn 4-5 eles per vein instead of the 1-3 tha spawn if you stop mining every time one spawns. I'm not sure if this was just my luck or something in the code, but it certainly held true for me.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:14 am

Hmm never noticed any code for this so it may be coincidence but now that you mention it that happens to me as well. I remember poping like 4 from one tile.

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Plastic Man · Post by **Plastic Man** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:22 am

Honestly I think its a neat little feature. Its a bit more difficult to do but its a bit better reward which IMO balances it out. I mean if you keep mining AND fighting at the same time its not like you can run so you have to heal and fight and mine all at once, makes mining almost not boring. Almost.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:51 am

Plastic Man wrote:Honestly I think its a neat little feature. Its a bit more difficult to do but its a bit better reward which IMO balances it out. I mean if you keep mining AND fighting at the same time its not like you can run so you have to heal and fight and mine all at once, makes mining almost not boring. Almost.

4 val ellies and a supreme = ooOooo but it was a good haul when I ressed.

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