Name Change Deeds

d. · Post by d. » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:27 pm

Name change deeds should be for sale on the specialty dealer that sells pet bonding deeds and arty deeds and whatnot. It dosen't hurt anyone and it will act as a nice gold sink.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:32 pm

d. wrote:Name change deeds should be for sale on the specialty dealer that sells pet bonding deeds and arty deeds and whatnot. It dosen't hurt anyone and it will act as a nice gold sink.

I dunno, your name is an identity. If you're changing your name often because you have a bunch of gold, then it can get confusing for other people. I agree that they should be obtainable but not something that can easily be purchased with a lot of gold.

Donation sounds like a good idea but then it would only be available to those who would spend IRL money which is not the best idea either. They would need to be rare or expensive enough to deter from continuous use.

OR another idea is to give them when you create your char where you have 1 chance to change your name. It would kind of be like skill deeds in your bank that can only be used by you.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:05 pm

I have plans to make them available both through donation store as well as specialty dealer. There would be some kind of system though where it's restricted. Like you can't change your name if it's already been changed in last month, and so on. I was even thinking it would do a shard broadcast like "so and so is now known as so and so" so at least anyone online sees it.

The specialty dealer would charge an insane amount for one though, something like 25mil.

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d. · Post by d. » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:12 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:I have plans to make them available both through donation store as well as specialty dealer. There would be some kind of system though where it's restricted. Like you can't change your name if it's already been changed in last month, and so on. I was even thinking it would do a shard broadcast like "so and so is now known as so and so" so at least anyone online sees it.

The specialty dealer would charge an insane amount for one though, something like 25mil.

25 mil? that would be good.....make it available for only 2-3 people on the server with that kind of money.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:54 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:I have plans to make them available both through donation store as well as specialty dealer. There would be some kind of system though where it's restricted. Like you can't change your name if it's already been changed in last month, and so on. I was even thinking it would do a shard broadcast like "so and so is now known as so and so" so at least anyone online sees it.

The specialty dealer would charge an insane amount for one though, something like 25mil.

Ya, the key note there is some kind of restriction so that the player can't just change their name every 5 minutes.

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Vaneldarou · Post by **Vaneldarou** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:47 am

You may want to limit the deed so that the player may only create a unique name. So we do not have 18 "a newbie" here.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:01 am

Vaneldarou wrote:You may want to limit the deed so that the player may only create a unique name. So we do not have 18 "a newbie" here.

imo uo should have already thought of that one at the name creation screen :/.

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Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:27 pm

yea, the "a newbie" thing is getting rediculous, just so everyone knows. It's not even funny anymore, I got on the other day and 5 a newbies were on. I HATE checking them and hate getting pages cause you don't know who to respond to

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:35 pm

Seer Death wrote:
Vaneldarou wrote:You may want to limit the deed so that the player may only create a unique name. So we do not have 18 "a newbie" here.
imo uo should have already thought of that one at the name creation screen :/.

Yeah I've thought of doing that here but I can guarantee it would generate tons of bug reports as people just automatically figure you can have duplicate names, but imo it makes no sense that there would be two chars named the same, so because of that I can't really stop it. If I did, it would of had to be done first thing when the shard opened.

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LordWolfX · Post by **LordWolfX** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:49 pm

Shadow wrote:yea, the "a newbie" thing is getting rediculous, just so everyone knows. It's not even funny anymore, I got on the other day and 5 a newbies were on. I HATE checking them and hate getting pages cause you don't know who to respond to

Its not supposed to be funny, its Strategic for PVP.

we arent even supposed to be different colors, but we dont really have competition at champs atm, so we have grown lax.

Say your in Vent.

Call target

OK?

Call Color (we are supposed to all rock same color, thats why we change it so frequently)

Ok ?

which one?

the white a newbie

5 of you are targeting 5 different a newbies

we arent supposed to be wearing different looking gear, like chaos/heater/buckler... because then its distinguishible....

but thats kind of hard when some of us are using dementals, and we cant all get awsomeness warforks in our first week/month of playing

We didnt plan it that way for the chat system, the system we are using was layed out before AoV Exsisted, on shards without a Public chat, and many many more users.

Lets say you like to target the seemling strongest first? or the seemingly weakest?

lets say you blaim wolf for all the problems in your life and make excuses about everything that happens in game as him saying something and want to target him first?
lets say you want to target Eske first because hes leader on the stone?
Lets say you want to target Brunus first because his ping is over 100?

Sorry

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:55 pm

I can see it working well though. For pages it's not so bad as it goes by serial # as long as you page and not just ask us in chat for help, we can trace it (it automatically brings us there). And as long as you mention account name when talking to us outside of game we can help so it's not that big of a deal as far as staffing goes.

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LordWolfX · Post by **LordWolfX** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:56 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:I can see it working well though. For pages it's not so bad as it goes by serial # as long as you page and not just ask us in chat for help, we can trace it (it automatically brings us there). And as long as you mention account name when talking to us outside of game we can help so it's not that big of a deal as far as staffing goes.

i tend to use Wolf if public chat when trying to seek admin attention, sometimes i just either forget or am engrossed in what i need my PVPer for ATM though -=/

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Eskeshehir · Post by **Eskeshehir** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:32 am

I'm not changing my name for anything. There's a rhyme and reason to it, and it serves it's purpose quite well. If the playerbase picked up to say 50 avg online (Not including D.) Then i would bust ass all the time to make sure we all LOOK the same, gearwise, we would all be wearing the same color, and you all would loathe it.

Tough luck. There's more than one Jim in the world, and more than one Steve.

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Vaneldarou · Post by **Vaneldarou** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:59 am

Your strategy is ingenious. However, it does seem cowardly. I have much more respect for a team that tries to beat you while each member looks different. You guys do not want a challenge...you want a massacre. The problem with that is you will go unopposed due to your "technical advantage" (not a skill based one). It takes no skill to have all the same names and gear. That means to me that you doubt your own abilities to conduct war like your opponents so you take a cheesy in-game flaw (all same names) and exploit it. Grow up. Get some sack. You will never have my respect behaving as you do. Your guild's concept represents cowardliness. At least while you dress differently someone may actually want to try and challenge you, but from what I understand you require an unfair advantage (to make up for your weaknesses) to win by making it so no one can concentrate an attack on any one of your characters. Lame-o.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:09 am

Actually, concentrating attack on a single char is also known as ganking so that's not any better.

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LordWolfX · Post by **LordWolfX** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:47 am

Vaneldarou wrote:Your strategy is ingenious. However, it does seem cowardly. I have much more respect for a team that tries to beat you while each member looks different. You guys do not want a challenge...you want a massacre. The problem with that is you will go unopposed due to your "technical advantage" (not a skill based one). It takes no skill to have all the same names and gear. That means to me that you doubt your own abilities to conduct war like your opponents so you take a cheesy in-game flaw (all same names) and exploit it. Grow up. Get some sack. You will never have my respect behaving as you do. Your guild's concept represents cowardliness. At least while you dress differently someone may actually want to try and challenge you, but from what I understand you require an unfair advantage (to make up for your weaknesses) to win by making it so no one can concentrate an attack on any one of your characters. Lame-o.

its called stratagy

without stratagy there can be no tactics

without tactics we are all worthless rabble

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Vaneldarou · Post by **Vaneldarou** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:12 pm

Great point Red Squirrel!

Unfortunately, DI is the only combatant who gets to gank!

See the problem? Like I said, great strategy...extremely cowardly.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:35 pm

This strategy vs. cowardice discussion reminds me of the American Revolutionary war where the British would still line up in the middle of a big field in bright red uniforms and pretty hats and would take turns shooting each other to death. Hilarious! The Americans decided that this was completely retarded, and fought in forests behind trees using stealth and the environment to their advantage.

The point is, during a war there are no rules. The ones who cry are usually the first to die/lose. You must use whatever is at your disposal to your advantage; cowardice and honor are irrelevant. This is the big difference between a war and a duel.

Somewhat off topic, but in real life there should never be any wars, just duels between the generals.

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Vaneldarou · Post by **Vaneldarou** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:12 pm

This is not a strategy vs. cowardice discussion.

I have said repeatedly in my posts that the strategy is ingenious...meaning superior to all others.

If UO was about war I would understand more, but it is not. You need opposing sides to have a war. The way it is now there is no opposing side. In the real world, the only thing that matters is the uniforms being uniform...you do not attack people by name in war. This means that NEITHER side has that advantage...making it an honorable combat. What DI does is cowardly. They named all their characters the same in a virtual environment where names DO matter. For any other group to fight on equal ground they would 1) start new chars all named the same and 2) somehow form a tight knit group of friends with ventrillo. Interesting, honorable fights are when both sides have similar advantages. DI does not want anyone who can stand up to them...they just want to gank. That sir, is cowardice.

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d. · Post by d. » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:02 pm

Everyone, STFU.

Thank you.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:50 am

Vaneldarou wrote:***.

You can't call targets on a mission IRL, why should you be able to on UO? It's not being coward, it's outsmarting the opposition. Ganking with more numbers than your oponent has is cowardly. Ganking with even numbers is strategy.

By the way, it's not a flaw. Like Esk said, there's more than a Steve in the world. If anything, we can change our names to something like "Mike McFly" or some sort of name. It's all the same, really.

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Vaneldarou · Post by **Vaneldarou** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:37 am

You are correct, you cannot call individual targets in a real life mission; you can only call an area to hit. However, that area is manned and those personnel are ordered to stay there. If DI stayed in an area that 1 bomb could hit you would be making an accurate comparison, which you are not.

As it stands now - and this is a major part of my point - is that ONLY DI can call targets! You stated "why should you be able to on UO." Here my point is that only DI can...which tilts the scale unfairly...which makes your strategy cowardly. You do not want to be on even ground fighting your enemies. You need to exploit the game (where others have chosen not to) to win. Makes me wonder if you even have a chance of winning if you played like honorable gamers; this means allowing yourselves to be individually targeted like your opponents. That's all.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:59 am

Vaneldarou wrote:As it stands now - and this is a major part of my point - is that ONLY DI can call targets! You stated "why should you be able to on UO." Here my point is that only DI can...which tilts the scale unfairly...which makes your strategy cowardly. You do not want to be on even ground fighting your enemies. You need to exploit the game (where others have chosen not to) to win. Makes me wonder if you even have a chance of winning if you played like honorable gamers; this means allowing yourselves to be individually targeted like your opponents. That's all.

We don't need it. Hell, I only made a newbie like two weeks after di. came to here, I was an easy target since I was the only one to use swamp dragons and dye myself all black. It just helps a bit.

And, to think, it's actually easy to go agaisn't our tactic, just think a little. A little. As a side note, explosion pots and area of effect spells are UO's bombs, my point stands corrected. Also, you CAN call targets, as none of us are dyed the same nor play the same style of fighting.

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LordWolfX · Post by **LordWolfX** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:06 am

Vaneldarou wrote:This is not a strategy vs. cowardice discussion.
...... Your strategy is ingenious. However, it does seem cowardly...........
That sir, is cowardice.

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Eskeshehir · Post by **Eskeshehir** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:09 pm

Vaneldarou wrote:This is not a strategy vs. cowardice discussion.

I have said repeatedly in my posts that the strategy is ingenious...meaning superior to all others.

If UO was about war I would understand more, but it is not. You need opposing sides to have a war. The way it is now there is no opposing side. In the real world, the only thing that matters is the uniforms being uniform...you do not attack people by name in war. This means that NEITHER side has that advantage...making it an honorable combat. What DI does is cowardly. They named all their characters the same in a virtual environment where names DO matter. For any other group to fight on equal ground they would 1) start new chars all named the same and 2) somehow form a tight knit group of friends with ventrillo. Interesting, honorable fights are when both sides have similar advantages. DI does not want anyone who can stand up to them...they just want to gank. That sir, is cowardice.

The plan isn't in full implementation, learn the color scheme's and learn the players. Im willing to guarantee everyone i have in Di. can take anyone on the shard not counting D. The plan came from OSI, where being singled out and dumped on was a regular occurance. Also considering this game is based on Ping, the slower member's are given a slight reprieve due to it.

Next time you wanna post your blatent Ignorance, directly PM me so i don't have to put my neck on the line, irritating several people in the process, pointing it back out to you.

If you care to proceed with it further, you can PM me in game on Rebecca Voltais, and i'll gladly proceed to point it out to you further.

Forgive me if i seem in a bad mood, Bad day at work resulting in a WCB injury leaves me somewhat pissed off.

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