I'm just going to update this thread continuously...

Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:53 pm

jrhather wrote:Okay...cool thanks.

A thought for the donation bin.... unlimited use tools and bags of common supplies.

Unlimited use tools no. We'd want something to be perishable if it normally has charges. Tools are inexpensive and easily obtainable anyways.

Common supplies are in high demand as well.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:46 pm

I would donate $10 for a no limit shovel, perhaps $20+ for a no limit gargy pick.

And before you say that would ruin the economy, everyone makes their own shovels anyways.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:27 am

DOCTOR THUNDER wrote:I would donate $10 for a no limit shovel, perhaps $20+ for a no limit gargy pick.

And before you say that would ruin the economy, everyone makes their own shovels anyways.

Wouldn't ruin shit all. I'm talking basic tools like sewing kits, pens, blow pipes etc. I'd shell out $5-10 for the no limit items. I think most ppl would.

Seer Death wrote: Unlimited use tools no. We'd want something to be perishable if it normally has charges. Tools are inexpensive and easily obtainable anyways.

This is my point. It wouldn't provide any benefit at all, just a less tedious experience.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:33 pm

Are Hellsteeds and Red Deaths tamable or controllable?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:52 pm

jrhather wrote:Are Hellsteeds and Red Deaths tamable or controllable?

None of the above. Both are undead so cannot be allured. Red death's a quest monster (Eventually be converted to a kill/collect quest with new resolve's bridles).

Hellsteeds are animates. You can ride them but they won't last (Only exceptional is the "grizzled" mare which is a special drop off the monstrous interred grizzle).

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:39 pm

Seer Death wrote:
jrhather wrote:Are Hellsteeds and Red Deaths tamable or controllable?
None of the above. Both are undead so cannot be allured. Red death's a quest monster (Eventually be converted to a kill/collect quest with new resolve's bridles).

Hellsteeds are animates. You can ride them but they won't last (Only exceptional is the "grizzled" mare which is a special drop off the monstrous interred grizzle).

So what about the wild hellsteeds?

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:13 am

um, just had a thought.

cutting.

how come you can skin a corpse and loot a corpse from a certain distance(2)...but you can't cut the hides at that same distance(1)??

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:51 am

Okay... guess thats a hard question.

Here is another one: Have you guys been messing with the loot from Wights?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:00 am

jrhather wrote:Okay... guess thats a hard question.

Here is another one: Have you guys been messing with the loot from Wights?

Haven't touched wights for over a year. Is there something funny about the loot packs?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:01 am

jrhather wrote:um, just had a thought.

cutting.

how come you can skin a corpse and loot a corpse from a certain distance(2)...but you can't cut the hides at that same distance(1)??

Guess that's just the way it's always been. Haven't much thought about it. It all depends on how many tiles the original coders (RUNUO) gave it.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:06 am

Seer Death wrote:
jrhather wrote:Okay... guess thats a hard question.

Here is another one: Have you guys been messing with the loot from Wights?
Haven't touched wights for over a year. Is there something funny about the loot packs?

Yeah I used to get decent items every 2-3 wights.... haven't gotten shit all from them today and I've killed 15 or so.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:16 am

jrhather wrote:Yeah I used to get decent items every 2-3 wights.... haven't gotten shit all from them today and I've killed 15 or so.

Ya, they haven't been touched recently so you're probably just getting the crap end of the property list on your loot.

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DOCTOR THUNDER · Post by **DOCTOR THUNDER** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:44 pm

Seer Death wrote:
jrhather wrote:Yeah I used to get decent items every 2-3 wights.... haven't gotten shit all from them today and I've killed 15 or so.
Ya, they haven't been touched recently so you're probably just getting the crap end of the property list on your loot.

I get the same thing from rat archers. While I am down doing a baracoon, if I check 1 rat corpse it will have a 5 mod/100% intensity item. Its always crap, like a 100 luck, 50 hit area, 100 lower req on a bow or crook. But then I start checking more corpses and the mods are like 4lrc, 7 hit spell, 5 hld...

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:14 pm

What is this?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:18 pm

Boundary. People trying to use a house placement script I believe. Boy, are they in for a rude awakening. Red can give you more details

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:27 pm

Was someone near there at the time? Does sound like someone was trying to place a house on top of that one for whatever reason. That happened to be the first item blocking so it just "highlights" it to show what is blocking placement.

People STILL don't realize that idoc house placement scripts do not work here.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:29 pm

oh yeah...i noticed it the first time some dude all in hot pink showed up

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:57 pm

jrhather wrote:oh yeah...i noticed it the first time some dude all in hot pink showed up

Sora was the name. I dunno if they are involved at all...

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:40 pm

I know you can combine Powder of Fortification, is there anything else that can be combined like this? Runics for example?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:47 pm

jrhather wrote:I know you can combine Powder of Fortification, is there anything else that can be combined like this? Runics for example?

Nope, not yet at least.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:49 am

18 tailor quests done

1 horned
2 spined
15 plain

1 60k cheque
1 10k cheque
16 200-1000gp cheque

1 srsk
4 single use pof (these are still in!??!)
1 bear rug
3 sandals

conclusion: it was much better before.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:56 am

all in all today I've made 350k doing tailor quests, 1 ten use brsk, 7 goddamn useless srsk, like.. 9 one use PoF, 10 sandals and maybe 2000 coloured cloth. edit: and 2 bear rugs

I miss the mass amounts of bods that i would get in several orders. i miss getting 3-5 hrsk and 2-3 brsk when i go on runs like these...

the gold is an improvement, but more leather for less payoff isn't

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Death · Post by **Death** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:10 am

jrhather wrote:all in all today I've made 350k doing tailor quests, 1 ten use brsk, 7 goddamn useless srsk, like.. 9 one use PoF, 10 sandals and maybe 2000 coloured cloth. edit: and 2 bear rugs

I miss the mass amounts of bods that i would get in several orders. i miss getting 3-5 hrsk and 2-3 brsk when i go on runs like these...

the gold is an improvement, but more leather for less payoff isn't

You're not supposed to be able to get 2 or 3 barbed kits per day. The rewards you're getting right now are organized in a similar fashion to the way bods used to be (Those bod deeds and junk). The difference? A questing system with waaaay better odds of getting the good prizes (We can probably get rid of the 1 use POF though and make it 3 or 5 or something. That prize is kind of a tease).

What wrong with spined kits? Sell em off or make something with them (Luck armor). Make some new player armor and sell it on a vendor or something. If you can't use it, you can find somebody who will.

Leather is easy to get. 300 barbed leather is literally less than 10 minutes in destard fel with a skinning knife. 2000 colored cloth is normal considering you can buy hides off a tanner and just cut them (So less than 4 minutes to complete that type of quest).

If leather weren't so easy to get, I may agree with what you're saying but I don't follow you on this one.

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jrhather · Post by **jrhather** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:09 am

fair enough.

put it to ya this way... I got used to getting good rewards, then it was 'nerfed' to be harder.

as long as i can still get brsk and hrsk...

kinda like west nile crows when i first started, they had amazing loot, then some one decided a creature that could be killed with a single fireball shouldn't have a dragons hoard of treasure on its little bird-corpse. I was pissed at first... then I got used to the way it should be.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:23 am

jrhather wrote:fair enough.

put it to ya this way... I got used to getting good rewards, then it was 'nerfed' to be harder.

as long as i can still get brsk and hrsk...

kinda like west nile crows when i first started, they had amazing loot, then some one decided a creature that could be killed with a single fireball shouldn't have a dragons hoard of treasure on its little bird-corpse. I was pissed at first... then I got used to the way it should be.

Well we're used to that now.

Obviously if something is too easy to get, like killing a west nile crow and getting a horde of loot VS killing something harder and getting less loot, something is flawed there.

The bods were the same idea. At first they were giving too many high end rewards, then they were giving too many low end rewards. Now it appears to be balanced out and the missing prizes have been put in.

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