Blood Oath

WarriorMan · Post by **WarriorMan** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:39 pm

You should drop Blood Oath from the Monster Necro list, sort of retarded when you get Blood Oathed and you hitting 200's.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:55 pm

Or have "Cure" or something heal Blood Oath. =3

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:59 pm

I'm pretty sure on OSI stuff blood oaths, while we are not an OSI clone, I try to make some of the base stuff like OSI, or close enough.

Wow, I sooo sounded like asayre there, with the whole OSI excuse. Freaky.

In all seriousness I know what you mean though. Try tanking a DF with demon slayer.

I can solo em, but its not easy.

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Gaiava Arkkaza · Post by **Gaiava Arkkaza** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:59 pm

lol Doenst curse weapon or life leech solves that?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:27 pm

Well with vamp + 100% life leech wep + curse you leech just as much hp as you do damage, so yeah, it will nullifie the oath but you won't leech more so the DF attacks will damage you, and if one of those 3 life leech mechanisms stops (most likely curse wep) then you won't be leeching enough. You'll leech 100% of the time because vamp is 100 life leech, but you won't leech 100% of the hp.

So really the only thing to do is stop attacking, or in my case, run, and hope the DF does not teleport on my sword. For DF its nice to have a necro around simply spamming oath on it so it cant oath the person tanking.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:02 pm

I totally killed myself on my mage last night when I frikkin casted energy bolt on a shadow wyrm that oathed me. I had a talisman slayer and I have like 65% SDI on that char...

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:29 pm

dprantl wrote:I totally killed myself on my mage last night when I frikkin casted energy bolt on a shadow wyrm that oathed me. I had a talisman slayer and I have like 65% SDI on that char...

http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... es.php#sdi

9 (Spellbook)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
10 (Inscription)
55 SDI

How are you getting that extra 10 SDI?

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:08 pm

Lymus wrote:Or have "Cure" or something heal Blood Oath. =3

They do, the paladin's remove curse spell is supposed to reduce the effects and remove curses. I suppose you could get black to implement the remove curse apples that can be made by a cook who has the recipe.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:09 pm

Bartok wrote:
Lymus wrote:Or have "Cure" or something heal Blood Oath. =3
They do, the paladin's remove curse spell is supposed to reduce the effects and remove curses. I suppose you could get black to implement the remove curse apples that can be made by a cook who has the recipe.

And the Apple of Great Strenght. xD

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:10 pm

Lymus wrote:
Bartok wrote:
Lymus wrote:Or have "Cure" or something heal Blood Oath. =3
They do, the paladin's remove curse spell is supposed to reduce the effects and remove curses. I suppose you could get black to implement the remove curse apples that can be made by a cook who has the recipe.
And the Apple of Great Strenght. xD

Thought those were grapes of wrath

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:16 pm

Oh true, remove curse wont work on BO, something else for the todo list.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:32 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:Oh true, remove curse wont work on BO, something else for the todo list.

Apparently it shortens the effect of it which I find to be retarded. If you're going to cast a spell that costs 20 mana, you'd think it would be more helpful and instantaneous, especially as blood oath can simply be casted again. Come to think of it, if it's anything like demise, I believe it also did not work on mind rot (which it should).

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:12 am

Yeah it should just remove it completely. Another thing, though this would be hard, is make it so you can't stack blood oath, ex: if it wears out, you can't be oathed again for like 10 seconds. Otherwise the opponent can just keep casting it. I've been guilty of that myself...

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:23 am

Dispell Evil should also do Mana/Stamina damage to necromancers, which it doesn't.

But I'm not going to get into that.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:28 am

Never heard that one, but if you can find a stratics link I can check that.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:26 pm

Lymus wrote:
dprantl wrote:I totally killed myself on my mage last night when I frikkin casted energy bolt on a shadow wyrm that oathed me. I had a talisman slayer and I have like 65% SDI on that char...
http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... es.php#sdi

9 (Spellbook)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
10 (Inscription)
55 SDI

How are you getting that extra 10 SDI?

Brace: 11
Ring: 8
Necklace: 5
Essence of Spellcasting: 15
Red Wind Gloves: 12
Mystical Hat of Arkazza: 12
Inscription: 10

Ok, so it's 73 right now (I did say "like"). You forgetting about them arties? I could theoretically have 24 more for a grand total of 97 (12 on earrings, 12 on ring (+4), 12 on brace (+1) and 12 on necklace (+7)). I also have 63% LMC on that suit just by default, 100 LRC and 19 MR

. Now I just gotta work on the resists a little more.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:16 pm

Lymus wrote:Dispell Evil should also do Mana/Stamina damage to necromancers, which it doesn't.

But I'm not going to get into that.

I can vouch for this one as well. It also fightens aggressive monsters away from the caster.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:43 pm

Bartok wrote:
Lymus wrote:Dispell Evil should also do Mana/Stamina damage to necromancers, which it doesn't.

But I'm not going to get into that.
I can vouch for this one as well. It also fightens aggressive monsters away from the caster.

From http://uo.stratics.com/content/guides/p ... ties.shtml

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Dispel Evil: Attempts to dispel evil summoned creatures and cause other evil creatures to flee from combat. Transformed Necromancers may also take Stamina and Mana damage. Caster's Karma and Chivalry, and Target's Fame and Necromancy affect Dispel Chance."

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Chili · Post by **Chili** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:53 pm

WarriorMan wrote:You should drop Blood Oath from the Monster Necro list, sort of retarded when you get Blood Oathed and you hitting 200's.

Your an idiot. Try making a remove curse hotkey.

When its fixed.

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Death · Post by **Death** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:14 pm

Chili wrote:
WarriorMan wrote:You should drop Blood Oath from the Monster Necro list, sort of retarded when you get Blood Oathed and you hitting 200's.
Your an idiot. Try making a remove curse hotkey.

When its fixed.

I don't think the "idiot" was necessary. However, one of the "perks" of getting chivalry is to prevent blood oath. Nobody says you need 100 chivalry, 50 might even do it.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:45 pm

dprantl wrote:
Lymus wrote:
dprantl wrote:I totally killed myself on my mage last night when I frikkin casted energy bolt on a shadow wyrm that oathed me. I had a talisman slayer and I have like 65% SDI on that char...
http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... es.php#sdi

9 (Spellbook)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
12 (ring)
10 (Inscription)
55 SDI

How are you getting that extra 10 SDI?
Brace: 11
Ring: 8
Necklace: 5
Essence of Spellcasting: 15
Red Wind Gloves: 12
Mystical Hat of Arkazza: 12
Inscription: 10

Ok, so it's 73 right now (I did say "like"). You forgetting about them arties? I could theoretically have 24 more for a grand total of 97 (12 on earrings, 12 on ring (+4), 12 on brace (+1) and 12 on necklace (+7)). I also have 63% LMC on that suit just by default, 100 LRC and 19 MR . Now I just gotta work on the resists a little more.

Remember, MR is maxed at 16, LMC is maxed at 40. And yeah, I'm not used to all of them arties yet =P Too used to OSI, honestly. But is it an all 70s and 2/6 suit? Just curious. If so, sounds nice.

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dprantl · Post by **dprantl** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Remember, MR is maxed at 16,

Are you 100% sure that Mana Regeneration is capped? I'm pretty sure it isn't on Demise and OSI, just max attainable from items which happens to be 16.

Also, stratics explicitly notes whether something is capped or not. In the case of regenerating properties, they do not state there is a cap, just max attainable with normal items (12) and with arties (16):

http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-arm ... erties.php

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:19 pm

I thought it was capped at 16. Try lich form, med without a wisp, then med with it. Check if there's a difference.

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Lymus · Post by **Lymus** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:21 pm

dprantl wrote:
Bartok wrote:
Lymus wrote:Dispell Evil should also do Mana/Stamina damage to necromancers, which it doesn't.

But I'm not going to get into that.
I can vouch for this one as well. It also fightens aggressive monsters away from the caster.
From http://uo.stratics.com/content/guides/p ... ties.shtml
Code: Select all
Dispel Evil: Attempts to dispel evil summoned creatures and cause other evil creatures to flee from combat. Transformed Necromancers may also take Stamina and Mana damage. Caster's Karma and Chivalry, and Target's Fame and Necromancy affect Dispel Chance."

Try spamming it against a vampire form archer like BS. Doesn't do crap.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:58 pm

Yeah its broken, something to fix.

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