Freedom downtime

000 · Post by **000** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:02 pm

You're a lost cause RED. I quit.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:47 pm

Oh lighten up man, come join us in our rejoicing.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:01 pm

H4X TeH Pl4N3TT!!!!111!

Could not help it.

I'd be so dead right now if I lived in the states.

Just talking bad about the goverment is enough to get them after ya.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:29 pm

Anarchy wrote: Oh lighten up man, come join us in our rejoicing.

That goes for you to Red! Why hack... When you can spread love and joy. Unless you were hacking to give someone something... Like a song

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:03 pm

Yep it's called white hat hacking. Hacking for good. Then there's idiot black hat hackers, or more precicely, script kiddies, who just go around to cause trouble.

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Jack Potato · Post by **Jack Potato** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:50 pm

i like movies...

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:27 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: Yep it's called white hat hacking. Hacking for good. Then there's idiot black hat hackers, or more precicely, script kiddies, who just go around to cause trouble.

No, Red, you're wrong. So-called black hat hackers and script kiddies are completely different. You see, script kiddies aren't hackers at all, rather the wannabes who can't code their own exploits and use everyone else's instead, hence the name 'script kiddie'.

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OLKMED · Post by **OLKMED** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:22 am

i live in the US and could definitely say all the stuff you said without fear of getting locked up.....

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OLKMED · Post by **OLKMED** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:23 am

and i live in the "homeland" which has it's own guy in the cabinet watching over our "homeland security"

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000 · Post by **000** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:29 am

OLKMED wrote: i live in the US and could definitely say all the stuff you said without fear of getting locked up.....

No use telling him how it is, he has is own mis-informed reality about the United States.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:40 am

Stasi wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: Yep it's called white hat hacking. Hacking for good. Then there's idiot black hat hackers, or more precicely, script kiddies, who just go around to cause trouble.

No, Red, you're wrong. So-called black hat hackers and script kiddies are completely different. You see, script kiddies aren't hackers at all, rather the wannabes who can't code their own exploits and use everyone else's instead, hence the name 'script kiddie'.

Close enough it all falls in the same category, the "bad" group. But ones refered to as script kiddies are usually the stupid ones like "lol whats a proxy" type people. Less of a threat to normal people, usually just a firewall does the trick against those.

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:51 pm

Red Squirrel wrote:
Stasi wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: Yep it's called white hat hacking. Hacking for good. Then there's idiot black hat hackers, or more precicely, script kiddies, who just go around to cause trouble.

No, Red, you're wrong. So-called black hat hackers and script kiddies are completely different. You see, script kiddies aren't hackers at all, rather the wannabes who can't code their own exploits and use everyone else's instead, hence the name 'script kiddie'.

Close enough it all falls in the same category, the "bad" group. But ones refered to as script kiddies are usually the stupid ones like "lol whats a proxy" type people. Less of a threat to normal people, usually just a firewall does the trick against those.

Sure you can create any kind of broad category to contain even polar opposites. Geez, Red, you're like some kind of mandroid who says things without knowing about them and then comes up with bogus explanations as cover.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:05 pm

Scripting is the lamest form of hacking. I don't agree with hacking, but if you're gonna do it... Do it right =\n
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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:57 pm

LOL true. Depends what you're scripting though, but any type of scripts are much slower then a compiled program, so if you'll do an automated process use C++ or another fast programming language. (which is the smartest way if you want the attack to be strong and easy to do)

I have a few WMD's around my network for these type of things. Lost some with my data loss though but I'm sure I must have some on CD somewhere... They're very basic though and I'd probably recode something better if I was to perform an attack. but they're ok for plain attacks like making a thread's view go up to 1,000,000, or simply crashing an IIS server.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:07 pm

Scripting's easy (apparently). But if you wanna be a true computer geek, then you gotta hack properly

.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:13 pm

Yep for sure. Really I'm suprised no one has done linux script viruses. Would be VERY easy. Just a script with a bunch of stuff that looks complicated (does not have to do anything, just has to look like it does) and stick this in it somewhere:

rm -rf /

and more random code. Upload it to an apt-get repository, name it something like http-d or something close to a real package, someone apt-get's it and bang, their whole driveS are gone. In linux / means everything, all partitions, all mounted network drives, everything.

Only reason I said to put the random code is in case someone checks the script for legitness, but I personally don't do that, and I don't think too many people do.

Now for even more destruction, have it rewrite the /etc/fstab to check for any read only mounts, and set them as non read only. Ex: if you mount a computer's c$ share but set it read only, this script would make it writable and bang, you can wipe a workstation at the same time.

That's assuming it's running as root (I think) but you need to do mostly everything as root so chances are it would get executed as root.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:17 pm

Hmm, try hacking Runescape. Thats run by Linux. Then get a character to level 2000 and sell the account for 1000s

.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:31 pm

All this hack talk makes me want to get into it again.

With VMware I can setup servers and hack them and see how much danage I can do.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:53 am

You just better make sure this page doesn't get read

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Stasi · Post by **Stasi** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:31 am

Anarchy wrote: Scripting is the lamest form of hacking. I don't agree with hacking, but if you're gonna do it... Do it right =\n

I wouldn't even consider it hacking... unless the user is the one who wrote the script. Script kiddies are annoying little turds who think that just because they know how to use SubSeven or launch an exploit they're '1337 h4x0r5'. Which brings to mind leet speak.... The only real hacker group I've ever seen use it on a regular basis is el8 and far as I know, they're now defunct.

Yeah, ask a script kiddie about shell code or how buffer overruns works and more than likely you'll either get a blank stare or some answer meant to baffle with bullsh*t.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:57 pm

LOL or just ask them what a proxy is. They'll do attacks that can easly be done with a proxy, without using one. like wtf? at least make it a tad harder for the victim to track you down.

I started off as a trojan script kiddie but that was not enough, I had to write my own stuff, then I found out it's illegal and sort of stopped from there and only do it on an ocasional basis, like trashing spamming sites with tons of HTTP POST requests. I need to get into the buffer overflow exploit stuff. you NEED to know that inside out to hack into any MS server.

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Mr Smith · Post by **Mr Smith** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:02 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: LOL or just ask them what a proxy is. They'll do attacks that can easly be done with a proxy, without using one. like wtf? at least make it a tad harder for the victim to track you down.

I started off as a trojan script kiddie but that was not enough, I had to write my own stuff, then I found out it's illegal and sort of stopped from there and only do it on an ocasional basis, like trashing spamming sites with tons of HTTP POST requests. I need to get into the buffer overflow exploit stuff. you NEED to know that inside out to hack into any MS server.

Speaking of illigal. Don't let the feds track me if you have them on this site. I've got so much warez on my computer if I ever get rid of limewire their downloads are going to drop dramaticly.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:05 pm

Yeah warez is a whole other issue. they go WAY overboard with that. Like shesh, it's just programs. They actually expect a home user to pay over 700 bucks for photoshop, and over 200 bucks for windows, etc... if I put it all together I easly have $20,000 worth of software. If I was to get caught, I would not get a $20,000 fine (which seems logical if you ask me) but instead I'd probably get thrown in jail for life, because I did $10,000,000 of damage.

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Mr Smith · Post by **Mr Smith** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:07 pm

My parents would get thrown in jail.

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:07 pm

Mr Smith wrote:
Red Squirrel wrote: LOL or just ask them what a proxy is. They'll do attacks that can easly be done with a proxy, without using one. like wtf? at least make it a tad harder for the victim to track you down.

I started off as a trojan script kiddie but that was not enough, I had to write my own stuff, then I found out it's illegal and sort of stopped from there and only do it on an ocasional basis, like trashing spamming sites with tons of HTTP POST requests. I need to get into the buffer overflow exploit stuff. you NEED to know that inside out to hack into any MS server.

Speaking of illigal. Don't let the feds track me if you have them on this site. I've got so much warez on my computer if I ever get rid of limewire their downloads are going to drop dramaticly.

Haha. Limewire? Maah don't bother with that crap. Try DC++ is you ever figure out how to set it up.

. It's alot faster, alot more downloads, and you can download whole albums instead of individual songs. The more you have to share, the more downloads you get access to.

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