Who's more 'fair and balanced'

MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:55 pm

What do you think? And what defines 'balanced'?

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:01 pm

Don't have cable.
When I do have access, though, I watch all three. Fox makes me laugh the hardest though with their commentary:
http://blugg.com/stuff/foxs_view_of_the_bbc_player.htm

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:05 pm

that was so funny!

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:08 pm

Red Squirrel wrote: that was so funny!

Red, did you vote for fox?

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:23 pm

Yeah, I had no clue who to vote for. Was totally random.

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Bookworm · Post by **Bookworm** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:31 pm

I don't have cable, either. Being balanced is when both sides accuse you of favoring the other side.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:32 pm

No doubt Fox news

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:34 pm

Bookworm wrote: I don't have cable, either. Being balanced is when both sides accuse you of favoring the other side.

What a great statement

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:47 pm

Bookworm wrote: I don't have cable, either. Being balanced is when both sides accuse you of favoring the other side.

Then its fox news....

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:59 pm

Let's see the republicans calling fox news 'unfair'

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:02 pm

By both sides i mean the people.

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Chris Vogel · Post by **Chris Vogel** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:46 pm

I do watch FOX more than any other news network. I feel a sudden urge to prove my liberalism now.

CNN would come in second. I like watching the news, but the people are very rude at times.

Tonight, I bathe in naïveté. FOX News: Fair and Balanced. See, it must be true. If it weren’t, that slogan would be more like “Unfair and Unbalanced”.

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Red Squirrel · Post by **Red Squirrel** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:04 pm

I tend to watch CNN when there's nothing on. Who needs war movies when you can watch CNN?

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:41 pm

Joe wrote:
Bookworm wrote: I don't have cable, either. Being balanced is when both sides accuse you of favoring the other side.

Then its fox news....

There are very few, if any times the traditional 'right' disagrees with foxnews, how can you make such a statement? Conservatives have never accused, with any validity, Fox of favoring the other side.

When Fox doesn't add in it's excessive social commentary, I like it, but when they quit reporting and start talking opinion, I change the channel quick. CNN is much the same but the opposite side and less aggressive commentary. MSNBC is news?

Overall, I never watch any of them for comprehensive news other than headlines or special reports, for real information the internet has much broader resources.

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:08 pm

The good thing about fox is you can get the news and also can get political debates and stuff, you should watch some. Bill Orielly is a good example, they make SURE they represent both sides. Last night Bill interviewed the President and right after they brought on Colmes who is a lib and then had a democratic advisor. The right wingers claim fox news is biased toward the left and the far left swear its biased for the right. But the smart intelligent ones know its fair and balanced.

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sintekk · Post by **sintekk** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:11 pm

Joe wrote: The right wingers claim fox news is biased toward the left

I still want proof

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FloodG8-9595 · Post by **FloodG8-9595** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:31 pm

Any Cable news agency who goes out of there way to claim that they are fair and balanced is likley incorrect in their assesment of their coverage, regardless of what they believe to be fair and balanced.
Most U.S. news agencys are slanted in some way depending on the particular show you happen to be watching.. ie O'reily or Chris Matthews..

Being currently unemployed I've found a lot of time to sit around and watch all the major news networks. Chances are I've watched a fair ammount of any one persons show from O'reily to Hanity and Colms to Chris Matthews to Scarburough and so on and so on. It's all in the way things are phrased.. It's subtle but it's there.

I personaly find O'Reily almost intollerably boastfull of his so called "fair and balanced news program".. I agree that he gives equal sides time to present their case but that alone does not make a program "fair and balanced". and therefor it should not be called such.
Bill O'Riely is opinionated and he doesn't withhold his opinion (I'll admit he's better at it now than he used to be). He also speaks his opinion as if it were allways true. I find that arrogant and ill mannered.

My point here isn't that Fox news should try to be more fair and balanced.. infact I could give a damn what Fox news does because I'm intelligent enough to cut through the crap and get the truth that happens to be there. My point is that they shouldn't tout that as the slogan if they don't want to try and achive the immpossible.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:00 pm

Joe wrote: The good thing about fox is you can get the news and also can get political debates and stuff, you should watch some. Bill Orielly is a good example, they make SURE they represent both sides. Last night Bill interviewed the President and right after they brought on Colmes who is a lib and then had a democratic advisor. The right wingers claim fox news is biased toward the left and the far left swear its biased for the right. But the smart intelligent ones know its fair and balanced.

No way man, I watch Fox all the time, they are not fair. Balance; more so than others, but not balanced on their own. Maybe you should check out some world news? Everything you've said CNN does too, bring in a conservative advisor, etc... thats common practice my friend. And don't get me started on Bill, I've watched quite a lot of Bill. It's nice that he stops the others to bring up a point on the other side, but he never brings up anything that matters, it's an empty jesture. Of course he has points on his own, I happen to agree with a lot of "conservative" ideas. I love his talking points, it's like every other one just ignores certain information. I live in Texas and I have never heard a right winger, other than the extreme, claim fox is biased towards the left, that's ridiculas!

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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:28 pm

MrSelf wrote:
Joe wrote: The good thing about fox is you can get the news and also can get political debates and stuff, you should watch some. Bill Orielly is a good example, they make SURE they represent both sides. Last night Bill interviewed the President and right after they brought on Colmes who is a lib and then had a democratic advisor. The right wingers claim fox news is biased toward the left and the far left swear its biased for the right. But the smart intelligent ones know its fair and balanced.

No way man, I watch Fox all the time, they are not fair. Balance; more so than others, but not balanced on their own. Maybe you should check out some world news? Everything you've said CNN does too, bring in a conservative advisor, etc... thats common practice my friend. And don't get me started on Bill, I've watched quite a lot of Bill. It's nice that he stops the others to bring up a point on the other side, but he never brings up anything that matters, it's an empty jesture. Of course he has points on his own, I happen to agree with a lot of "conservative" ideas. I love his talking points, it's like every other one just ignores certain information. I live in Texas and I have never heard a right winger, other than the extreme, claim fox is biased towards the left, that's ridiculas!

Then you don't watch bill's show. He get the emails all the time. I do watch cnn and find it more biased to the left then any other news org. A couple of the guys on CNN, joined the Kerry Camp, COME ON.

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:38 pm

Joe wrote: Then you don't watch bill's show. He get the emails all the time. I do watch cnn and find it more biased to the left then any other news org. A couple of the guys on CNN, joined the Kerry Camp, COME ON.

You think they don't pick out those extreme views? Come on! To be balanced you would have to pick out the extreme points, that doesn't mean and reasonable percentage of viewers feel that way.

I watch Bill's show when I catch it, but I rarely sit through a whole showing, there are often more interesting things than listen to his rants. If you watched the same type of shows on CNN, you'd see the same diversity. And CNN is not even the issue here, I never said CNN was less biased, but to say that fox is balanced is just as bad!

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MrSelf · Post by **MrSelf** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:41 pm

MrSelf wrote: I watch Bill's show when I catch it, but I rarely sit through a whole showing, there are often more interesting things than listen to his rants.

This means I used to watch it often, but now just when I catch it.

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